Superstitious Idea About Trump

NannyC1

Is it worth the 150 children murdered to get better energy supplies. I guess by the lack of empathy from the majority here it appears to be so.

I honestly don’t think anything could be further from the truth.

Not one person here in our Gransnetters community has ever expressed any view towards anyone’s death with anything other than regret and empathy.

Cossy

My understanding with solar power is that it’s daylight more than sunlight.

I wouldnt say that at all.
From what I know.

The OP floats the idea in reference to this illegal war that decreasing reliance on oil is "a happy coincidence" GrannyGravy.

chump is mad because the wind mills as he calls them are infront of his golf resorts
all the thing he does is either money or ego

The only way to a sure and safe long term fuel supply is nuclear, and even of we used some of the pocket packaged units like those built by Rolls Royce www.rolls-royce.com/innovation/small-modular-reactors.aspx#section-smr-build

When we had the 1973 oil crisis, we were far more dependent on Gulf oil than we are now. It led to a world wide search for other sources of oil, whether in Indonesia, the North Sea or

I think the current crisis will lead to the same again, countries seek to diversify the sources they get their oil and gas from by increasing the search for oil and gas in other provinces. I also think the Gulf states will look to the possibility of building pipelines to Meditteranean ports for transshipment to the rest of the world.

Smileless2012

The OP floats the idea in reference to this illegal war that decreasing reliance on oil is "a happy coincidence" GrannyGravy.

You can have empathy for those lost in this terrible war but see something worthwhile coming from it. That is a called the dark cloud’s silver lining. I am sure that most of us would have preferred nobody was killed.

NannyCI, there is a whole Thread about this issue.
I will try to locate it for you in the morning.
We have not ignored this tragedy.

icanhandthemback

Smileless2012

The OP floats the idea in reference to this illegal war that decreasing reliance on oil is "a happy coincidence" GrannyGravy.

You can have empathy for those lost in this terrible war but see something worthwhile coming from it. That is a called the dark cloud’s silver lining. I am sure that most of us would have preferred nobody was killed.

I can see nothing worthwhile coming from this illegal and totally unwarranted war.

The chances that it will lead to less reliance of oil is highly unlikely. Countries will simply look at ways of getting oil out of the Gulf without going through the Straits of Hormuz.

Saudi Arabia has a coastline on both the Gulf and the Red Sea. and also with Oman , which is the other side of the Gulf of Hormuz If pipelines were built across Saudi Arabia to either the Red Sea or Oman they could export through them. All the Gulf states share borders with Saudi, so it should be possible for them to export through the Red Sea and Oman as well.

It will also lead to exploration in other areas. Indonesia is now a major gas exporter, the development of its resurces followed 1973.

I do not underestimate the part that renewables can play in providing clean energy, but wind and sun are not to be relied on.

All that is needed is a winter anticline, holding freezing weather over the UK under clear windless conditions for a week or two, and wind production is down to 5%, and solar panels are less productive despite the sun. Shorter days, lower sun angles result in significantly lower overall output, sometimes just 10% of summer generation. Where do we get power from then?

There are other ways to get power. There is nuclear power, hydro power, etc. We have to find ways of storing solar power when the sun isn't out and allow people to get as much solar power as they can without having caps on it like we have.
Yes, it is an illegal war which is abhorrent but it has highlighted yet again how we cannot rely on fossil fuels so there has to be a big push on making homes warmer and funding more renewables so we aren't hit so radically when a power hungry leader goes rogue.

www.youtube.com/live/9CGbXS4f7Rc?si=7BvXhdgEHpB-YXbz
Just listened to Heather Cox Richardson latest podcast and she pretty much said the same thing as the OP.

Elegran

ronib

Unfortunately the sun and wind are not going to shine and blow to order.
Wave power is also a good alternative source of energy. Green energy has not reached working efficiency without additional use of fossil fuels at the moment .

Running water is another good source. Flour for our bread was ground in mills worked by waterwheels for centuries, but that power can be harnessed for many other uses - making electricity is one use.

90% of Quebec's electricity comes from hydropower. Of course we have the Saint Lawrence/Laurent river providing most of that.
Another 4% comes from wind-farms and other renewables like trash burning and thermoheat.

I love my electric car. As soon as my state decided we can have plug I. Solar, it is going to be amazing.

Thought I would stop by with some pettiness news.

A Democrat just flipped Trump's home turf. Oh to be a fly on the wall right now.

www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/democrat-flips-republican-florida-house-seat-includes-trump-mar-lago-rcna264660

2 Florida State Assembly seats were flipped this week.

Does anyone really believe that solar power will provide the energy needed in a country that simply does not get enough sunshine? What other kinds of alternative energy are actually going to be successful in the UK?

Great news imaround. Thanks for sharing.

Arto1s

Does anyone really believe that solar power will provide the energy needed in a country that simply does not get enough sunshine? What other kinds of alternative energy are actually going to be successful in the UK?

Wind, we already have, but, like solar it is dependent on wind and as I have said up thread. The coldest weather is often accompanied by windless conditions. Solar panels also produce much lss power in winter.

However, and additional renewable source could be tidal barrages, along the south Wales coast. Tidal barrages need coastal areas with a high tidal rise and fall, and South Wales is one of the few areas in this country that has the necessary tidal difference.

France has a tidal barrage across the river Rance in Brittany. It was installed in 1964, with ceremony with General de Gaulle and is still going strong. I think the turbines have been replaced once or twice.

Plans were drawn up to build such a barrage but failed for lack of government financial support.

Tidal power itself is a bit like fusion, always on the cusp of being viable but never delivering the goods. Moving parts and immersion in highly corrosive seawater are the problem.

Interesting results, imaround. I guess that these seats have been Republican for some time.

In theory it should encourage investment in renewables, whilst in fact there are those calling for allowing more north sea oil drilling as the appropriate response. www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4g8x7q4l8go

Arto1s

Does anyone really believe that solar power will provide the energy needed in a country that simply does not get enough sunshine? What other kinds of alternative energy are actually going to be successful in the UK?

How many posters on this thread have pointed out that the technology has developed to the extent that sunlight isn’t essential? They just need light. Even in the UK we get light during the day.. There is also battery storage available.

I don’t think anyone believes for a moment that solar will provide for all our energy needs, but a good mix of alternative energy sources will cut our over reliance on fossil fuels.

Incidentally, I mentioned geothermal yesterday and later discovered that our area of the NE has excellent potential for its development. Our local MP is very much involved in moving it forward. (There is also a good prospect of our area becoming a lithium producer, that’s very useful, too)

France has a tidal barrage across the river Rance in Brittany. It was installed in 1964, with ceremony with General de Gaulle and is still going strong. I think the turbines have been replaced once or twice.

Why has this been so successful, MOnica when the UK doesn’t get anywhere with plans for the same? Is it because it’s in fresh water rather than sea water?

The Severn Estuary is brackish water. It’s definitely feasible, lots of work has been done, it’s the cost and environmental concerns that have stopped it going ahead so far. This is the latest report.
www.severncommission.co.uk/

The River Severn is massively tidal.

"The Severn Estuary holds the second-highest tidal range in the world (up to 15m), offering potential to generate 5-7% of the UK’s total electricity needs through renewable tidal range energy. In March 2025, the Severn Estuary Commission recommended prioritizing tidal lagoons, rather than a full barrage, to deliver predictable, clean energy and aid net-zero goals"

This all needs to be progressed a bit quicker.

Great minds Luckygirl3!

imaround

2 Florida State Assembly seats were flipped this week.

Such encouraging news for you 😆

NannyCI, if you are still reading this Thread, click off, then go to the top of the daily list. Find FORUMS at the top left hand side. Click in, then go to the left hand column and click News and Politics.
Scroll down to the completed title 'Israel and US hit Iran'.
Go to page 3 and there you will find, among other issues, the beginning of the discussion about the atrocity of the bombing of the school.