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Superstitious Idea About Trump

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Caleo Tue 24-Mar-26 10:41:12

I am prepared for many objections .However , the fossil fuels crisis is so severe that I feel justified in floating the idea at least as a happy coincidence.---------------

Trump has broken the oil industry and one happy result may be that nations now invest much more in renewable power.

AuntieE Thu 26-Mar-26 14:42:16

Where does superstious come in to this discussion?

pennyg Thu 26-Mar-26 14:51:28

I was reading an article the other day about how Trump's recent actions have led to a worldwide surge in demand for renewable energy solutions, especially for solar panels, and car dealers can't keep up with demand for electric cars.

We have solar panels plus a storage battery; no, they're not very productive from November through to Jan/Feb, but this is more than made up for by what they produce in the other months; according to our app, over the course of the year they provide 80% of our electricity - and in fact this month, which hasn't been particularly sunny, we've been 83% self-sufficient. We also have a gizmo attached to our water tank, so that once the battery is full then excess energy is diverted to the immersion heater: this supplies all of our hot water through the summer months, & in fact over the past couple of weeks (now that the sun is higher in the sky - the sun still gets through the clouds) we've only needed the boiler to heat our water for half the usual times.

Maremia Thu 26-Mar-26 15:33:22

Silver lining, the surge in demand for renewables.

Frenchgalinspain Mon 30-Mar-26 17:35:45

Renewable power & solar power are enormous sources of energies in Spain.

The solar energy supplies extended power to mobile phones and sources of light during the late hours.

Maremia Mon 30-Mar-26 17:44:14

Will be wonderful to have control over our energy needs, without relying on trading partners.

M0nica Tue 31-Mar-26 22:50:26

Maremia

Will be wonderful to have control over our energy needs, without relying on trading partners.

For that you will need nuclear power and further exploration for oil and gas on the British continental shelf.

mae13 Wed 01-Apr-26 02:39:42

MaizieD

I'd agree with you, Caleo.

Here is Labour's opportunity to push, and vigorously invest in alternative energy production. It would not only cushion us against future oil shocks, but also provide much needed jobs and domestic industry.

But I'm sceptical (very) about claims that actively investing in renewable energy will mean lower bills........

My late father told me about government claims that nuclear power would mean lower bills (Ha!) and I remember, back in the 1960's, Harold Wilson's government claiming that North Sea gas and oil would mean lower bills and energy security (Ha!)

Surely the politicians couldn't have been lying?

Mamie Wed 01-Apr-26 04:30:35

mae13

MaizieD

I'd agree with you, Caleo.

Here is Labour's opportunity to push, and vigorously invest in alternative energy production. It would not only cushion us against future oil shocks, but also provide much needed jobs and domestic industry.

But I'm sceptical (very) about claims that actively investing in renewable energy will mean lower bills........

My late father told me about government claims that nuclear power would mean lower bills (Ha!) and I remember, back in the 1960's, Harold Wilson's government claiming that North Sea gas and oil would mean lower bills and energy security (Ha!)

Surely the politicians couldn't have been lying?

Well having 75% nuclear energy certainly means lower electricity bills in France.

Caleo Thu 02-Apr-26 13:03:00

Mamie

mae13

MaizieD

I'd agree with you, Caleo.

Here is Labour's opportunity to push, and vigorously invest in alternative energy production. It would not only cushion us against future oil shocks, but also provide much needed jobs and domestic industry.

But I'm sceptical (very) about claims that actively investing in renewable energy will mean lower bills........

My late father told me about government claims that nuclear power would mean lower bills (Ha!) and I remember, back in the 1960's, Harold Wilson's government claiming that North Sea gas and oil would mean lower bills and energy security (Ha!)

Surely the politicians couldn't have been lying?

Well having 75% nuclear energy certainly means lower electricity bills in France.

I agree with the arguments that endorse nuclear power: except that nuclear is an example of a solution to a problem that works, except that when it goes wrong it is a catastrophe.

A similar situation is a comparison of road travel and flying-----flying is so much better in many ways except that when an aeroplane crashes it's worse than a car crash.