The King is interfering in the Democratic process in the USA

knspol

Considering the state of the relationship between the US and the UK at the moment it's probably a good thing that he is going as he may be able to improve the situation as Trump really does seem to care about the monarchy.
Having said that I also agree that it will look to many people that he is endorsing Trump's actions. The alternative though would be to refuse with some sort of excuse that wouldn't be believed and that would cause a lot of resentment and ill feeeing. The King can't win whatever he does.

The USA is more than Trump.

He is just a blip in in the passage of time.

We should count ourselves lucky that we are not the King or Queen.

It would be a grave insult to the USA not to go., Sorry BOZ but he has insulted the UK enough. No he should not go. Let America sink. Wont be long and lets face it the rest of the world dosnt need them. They always take so long to catch up with technology that leave's them vulnerable. I feel they are on the edge of civil war

Grandmabatty

He's hardly interfering in usa democratic process. He was invited by the president and is going. Much as I feel he shouldn't go, diplomatically it is probably the correct action to take.

Agree… Trump being the petulant and DANGEROUS toddler that he is would be bound to take a slight like that out of the UK, and whilst this Madman is still in charge we need to placate him somewhat.
With a bit of luck Charles, being the upright and democratic man he seems to be, will have a few ‘polite’ barbs to carefully plant in Trumps tiny undamaged little ears!

Allira

*To cancel would be to make Trump more important than the office he holds*

This sums it up perfectly Iam64!!

Hear hear! The King and Queen will cope, and they are going for the Americans who are celebrating their country's 250th anniversary, not for the orange menace. The USA will eventually recover, I hope, from the current horrible situation.

sandye

It would be a grave insult to the USA not to go., Sorry BOZ but he has insulted the UK enough. No he should not go. Let America sink. Wont be long and lets face it the rest of the world dosnt need them. They always take so long to catch up with technology that leave's them vulnerable. I feel they are on the edge of civil war

As I said in my poet above (which obviously you have not read)

The USA is more than Trump.
And will survive Trump.

He is just a blip in in the passage of time.

sandye

It would be a grave insult to the USA not to go., Sorry BOZ but he has insulted the UK enough. No he should not go. Let America sink. Wont be long and lets face it the rest of the world dosnt need them. They always take so long to catch up with technology that leave's them vulnerable. I feel they are on the edge of civil war

Unfortunately insulting that evil malignant blob who has the code to the nuclear button… is not a good idea.
Charles can be diplomatic enough whilst still carefully expressing his displeasure with the naughty toddler!

sandye

It would be a grave insult to the USA not to go., Sorry BOZ but he has insulted the UK enough. No he should not go. Let America sink. Wont be long and lets face it the rest of the world dosnt need them. They always take so long to catch up with technology that leave's them vulnerable. I feel they are on the edge of civil war

And I will requote Iam64's post too:

To cancel would be to make Trump more important than the office he holds

This sums it up perfectly Iam64!!

Why can't people understand that?

Of course it won't be seen as endorsing Trumps behaviour.!

Our King has to go where our Government send him don't you know! it will be a cordial visit!

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A very wise and erudite comment.
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TwiceAsNice

I agree he shouldn’t go. Surely they could pretend his health isn’t good enough. Trump is a maniac and I don’t know why we are pretending he isn’t . Besides all the things that went before he went into Iran with no plan for getting out. Utter madness!

I agree. A convenient bout of ‘Covid’ would prevent him from travelling.

You'd wish Covid on someone?

eazybee

What utter nonsense. The King has been invited by Trump, and does his duty to his country as best he may; doubtless his diplomatic skills and good manners will go some way to alleviate the very poor impression Starmer has created.

In what way has Starmer created a poor impression? And with whom?

When you think of all the engagements the king has had to go to over his lifetime I'm sure sometimes he has been under the weather but will attend however boring it is.
Unless he is really unwell he will go to the US and tolerate time with Trump with his usual good manners.
He will see it as his duty as king

If the King visits the USA at the end of April this is surely interfering in America’s democracy.

The exact opposite would be true, if he were to refuse to go.

The King, as Head of State, is visiting a democratic, independent country, part of which were once colonies of Great Britain, to join in their Independence celebrations.

Those former colonies have expanded and are are now a constitutional federal republic with a democratically elected Head of State.

It is not up to our Head of State to pass judgement on the way the USA conducts its political affairs.

Yes I did read it, just because a made a statement that was my own opinion just as you put yours didn't make your assumption right

The OP has let their personal 'bee in the bonnet' write that? As several have said, the visit is to mark the 250th anniversary of Independence, not promote the Great Orange Baboon's personal standing (present USA polling has him at the lowest popularity since he moved into politics, having spotted a lack of GOP leadership around 11 or 12 years ago).

Maybe Charles and his speech advisers can subtly refer to the difficulties in keeping promises (GOB so far has 'struck out' - baseball term I gather -- on "no more wars", "I'll end the Ukraine war on day #1", and "it's easy to lower grocery prices"). Or drop a hint that he's sending Andrew over to testify to the Epstein investigators about who he saw doing what?

Did you feel the same way when Trump was welcomed here by the Queen?

Casdon Is correct. it’s a big anniversary and cannot to be missed. The USA is bigger than Trump..

Boz

He should go. The King has to show he is above politics. Trump will not be there forever .
It would be a grave insult to the USA not to go.
His personal feelings do not come into it and he probably has a low opinion of Trump but duty above all is his motto.

What about how Trump has insulted the British government abd it's PM? The King mustn't go as he cant be seen sucking up to Trump.

Why doesn't Gransnet have an editing button? I meant 'and'

Gfplux

If the King visits the USA at the end of April this is surely interfering in America’s democracy. This visit will be seen as the King endorsing and approving Trumps behaviour and threats towards the UK.
I can not understand why this visit is going ahead. If it does it will shake my belief and support of the Monarchy.
What do you think?

The King should be visiting Canada instead of taking for granted the loyalty and affection of a country now reconciled to the horrible past of colonization - a modern relationship of equals always requires building and renewal. Instead the Royals go to the USA to do what? Trump's a despot and a criminal. Will he pressure the King for a knighthood? An earldom? Oh, wait, he wants to be addressed as Sir or better yet, HRH. Trump wants royal recognition and the King compromises himself to give it to him. Send Andrew.

Just because Trump is insulting & makes all his decisions at a personal level, doesn't mean that the King has to be drawn into that game. He is King for a lifetime of a proud independant country.
He's accepted an invitation to the Independence celebrations and imo he is above descending to Trump's personal pettiness level & not going because Trump has insulted GB.
The King should be there, Trump will claim it as a personal hosting but most Americans & everyone in the rest of the world know different.

LonnBestemor

Gfplux

If the King visits the USA at the end of April this is surely interfering in America’s democracy. This visit will be seen as the King endorsing and approving Trumps behaviour and threats towards the UK.
I can not understand why this visit is going ahead. If it does it will shake my belief and support of the Monarchy.
What do you think?

The King should be visiting Canada instead of taking for granted the loyalty and affection of a country now reconciled to the horrible past of colonization - a modern relationship of equals always requires building and renewal. Instead the Royals go to the USA to do what? Trump's a despot and a criminal. Will he pressure the King for a knighthood? An earldom? Oh, wait, he wants to be addressed as Sir or better yet, HRH. Trump wants royal recognition and the King compromises himself to give it to him. Send Andrew.

He visited Canada last year.

Allira

^If the King visits the USA at the end of April this is surely interfering in America’s democracy.^

The exact opposite would be true, if he were to refuse to go.

The King, as Head of State, is visiting a democratic, independent country, part of which were once colonies of Great Britain, to join in their Independence celebrations.

Those former colonies have expanded and are are now a constitutional federal republic with a democratically elected Head of State.

It is not up to our Head of State to pass judgement on the way the USA conducts its political affairs.

Oh boy, you need to see the American situation up close. Trump was voted in by a majority of Americans, when it was a democracy. It is no longer and none of its democratic institutions are functioning. It is highly dysfunctional. It is way past time to wax eloquent about diplomacy. Trump is a madman. How is the world not seeing this? All the norms are gone. There have been huge "no-Kings" demonstrations. Why oh why would a King go there now? A visit by a respected King risks being seen as endorsing Trump. It's not about lauding the historical accomplishments of the U.S.A. now - this situation with Trump is one of those accomplishments and future citizens will be working for a very long time to accomplish half of what they've lost. No, it's not just the current administration, this is a toxic culmination of pushing American exceptionality. Not a blip. This is a flatline.