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The King is interfering in the Democratic process in the USA

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Gfplux Wed 01-Apr-26 17:23:42

If the King visits the USA at the end of April this is surely interfering in America’s democracy. This visit will be seen as the King endorsing and approving Trumps behaviour and threats towards the UK.
I can not understand why this visit is going ahead. If it does it will shake my belief and support of the Monarchy.
What do you think?

LonnBestemor Thu 02-Apr-26 18:58:26

The King should keep visiting until the average Briton knows where Canada is.

LonnBestemor Thu 02-Apr-26 19:03:27

He is not their King, they don't want Kings. Americans don't either. They want Hyacinth candlelight suppers and afternoon teas, the English penchant for selling history and land, lots of land. Oh wait, maybe they are more alike.

Desdemona Thu 02-Apr-26 19:04:55

Diplomacy, at a time like this is important.

Only my opinion mind.

Elegran Thu 02-Apr-26 19:22:14

The US of A will still be there when Trump is a paragraph on the third page of the newspaper lining the trash can. The King is visiting that America, not the one that Trump mistakenly thought he was making great again.

Elegran Thu 02-Apr-26 19:26:14

The average Briton is well aware of where Canada is - most of them are related to someone who lives there.

imaround Thu 02-Apr-26 19:36:38

Off topic, but in case anyone is keeping score, he has now fired 2 of his Cabinet.

Noem & Bondi.

He has started throwing Hegseth under the bus recently, so I suspect he is the next target of blame.

Allira Thu 02-Apr-26 19:40:33

Elegran

The US of A will still be there when Trump is a paragraph on the third page of the newspaper lining the trash can. The King is visiting that America, not the one that Trump mistakenly thought he was making great again.

😂😂😂

Love it, Elegran!

FranP Thu 02-Apr-26 19:41:56

OldFrill

If Charles doesn't go William would have to go. The monarchy is surely above lying their way out of attending unsavoury events.

While the visit is not intended to be political, it sends a message to the American people that we still value their friendship.

I think people tend to underestimate His Majesty. He could perhaps give Trump lessons on diplomacy and not shooting off his mouth so much. His report that Iran is proposing to settle shows us that he IS talking to opposition groups, which might be dangerous for them.

Allira Thu 02-Apr-26 19:42:31

Elegran

The average Briton is well aware of where Canada is - most of them are related to someone who lives there.

Quite!
And many have been there too.

Allira Thu 02-Apr-26 19:45:17

LonnBestemor

Allira

If the King visits the USA at the end of April this is surely interfering in America’s democracy.

The exact opposite would be true, if he were to refuse to go.

The King, as Head of State, is visiting a democratic, independent country, part of which were once colonies of Great Britain, to join in their Independence celebrations.

Those former colonies have expanded and are are now a constitutional federal republic with a democratically elected Head of State.

It is not up to our Head of State to pass judgement on the way the USA conducts its political affairs.

Oh boy, you need to see the American situation up close. Trump was voted in by a majority of Americans, when it was a democracy. It is no longer and none of its democratic institutions are functioning. It is highly dysfunctional. It is way past time to wax eloquent about diplomacy. Trump is a madman. How is the world not seeing this? All the norms are gone. There have been huge "no-Kings" demonstrations. Why oh why would a King go there now? A visit by a respected King risks being seen as endorsing Trump. It's not about lauding the historical accomplishments of the U.S.A. now - this situation with Trump is one of those accomplishments and future citizens will be working for a very long time to accomplish half of what they've lost. No, it's not just the current administration, this is a toxic culmination of pushing American exceptionality. Not a blip. This is a flatline.

Could you translate and perhaps precis please?

A visit by a respected King risks being seen as endorsing Trump.
It might be an idea to read the thread and see why this is not the case.

Casdon Thu 02-Apr-26 20:21:58

LonnBestemor

The King should keep visiting until the average Briton knows where Canada is.

This is a very silly comment, of course Brits know where Canada is, and love and respect it. I include the King in that.

undines Thu 02-Apr-26 20:46:11

Newsflash - the 'democratic process' elected Trump. The King going or not will affect nothing. The American public need to make their wishes felt - for all the good that will do - for another puppet of the 'deep state' to take control.

Mojack26 Thu 02-Apr-26 20:56:04

The King does as he's asked by the Govt. of the day,he is only Head of State,no power.....He probably would rathet not go! Who wants to go and see Trump. The King will be sent to massage Trump's huge ,gigantic ego!

Allira Thu 02-Apr-26 21:13:37

Mojack26

The King does as he's asked by the Govt. of the day,he is only Head of State,no power.....He probably would rathet not go! Who wants to go and see Trump. The King will be sent to massage Trump's huge ,gigantic ego!

The King will be sent to massage Trump's huge ,gigantic ego!

No he will not.

He will go to celebrate American Independence.
Thank you, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Roger Sherman, and Robert R. Livingston and the Continental Congress.
We will raise a cup of tea to you 🙂

RosiesMawagain Thu 02-Apr-26 21:16:42

LonnBestemor

The King should keep visiting until the average Briton knows where Canada is.

What a daft observation.

Oreo Thu 02-Apr-26 21:17:39

Hoping that’s not a euphemism there Mojack26 😲🤭 as it’s too horrible to contemplate.

Allira Thu 02-Apr-26 21:21:49

Oreo

Hoping that’s not a euphemism there Mojack26 😲🤭 as it’s too horrible to contemplate.

😂😂😂

I hope the King will be taking a large tub of Maldon Sea Salt with him. He'll need it.

Milest0ne Thu 02-Apr-26 21:43:29

Charles Reigns, he does not rule. If Trump wants to be king taking Charles as his model he would just be a figurehead and the world might be a safer place. I doubt he sees it like that

Allira Thu 02-Apr-26 22:11:49

Milest0ne

Charles Reigns, he does not rule. If Trump wants to be king taking Charles as his model he would just be a figurehead and the world might be a safer place. I doubt he sees it like that

Good idea.

A Parliamentary Republic with a ceremonial POTUS 😀

Chocolatelovinggran Thu 02-Apr-26 23:08:07

Well, imaround, it is difficult to feel sympathy for Ms Noem or Ms Bondi, but I wonder if they may have expected some loyalty from the man they supported so vigorously, despite all evidence against him.
He is a vengeful man, and looks for scapegoats when he suspects that things are not going well. These actions suggest that he is feeling a little less secure of late.

mae13 Thu 02-Apr-26 23:16:03

LonnBestemor

He is not their King, they don't want Kings. Americans don't either. They want Hyacinth candlelight suppers and afternoon teas, the English penchant for selling history and land, lots of land. Oh wait, maybe they are more alike.

Oh dear - you've been watching far, far too many Miss Marple TV adaptations haven't you?

You really should visit the UK, sometime, and see for yourself.

ruthiek Thu 02-Apr-26 23:26:53

HM is told by his government when and where to go on state visits . I would love Charles to pull out

mae13 Thu 02-Apr-26 23:29:27

LonnBestemor

The King should keep visiting until the average Briton knows where Canada is.

Canada is situated just above that odd former colony sadly full of hillbillies, those peculiar Trad Wives, Proud Boys and the Ku Klux Klan.

None of that is certainly not mentioned in the tourist brochures.

mae13 Fri 03-Apr-26 01:35:14

Anniebach

The king isn’t one for throwing eggs at faces

I wish he was........

JoeyJo Fri 03-Apr-26 03:49:05

Shame Prince Philip isn't still with us. He'd say something inappropriately appropriate to that loony. Perhaps Charles could teach him some manners. Personally I wish it wasn't happening.