What Is Melania's Strategy?

Intriguing.
Surely you'd only go to those lengths if someone or something had rattled you on the subject? Otherwise, save it for the courts at a later date of you knew you would be free of all guilt or blame.

*if not of

Maxwell herself has that Bills relationship was with her and not Epstein. There is no record of him ever being at the island or at the New Mexico property.

You know who has been at the property multiple times?

Trump and Melania.

You know who has been a accused of raping girls with Epstein?

Trump

You know who has been found civilly liable for rape?

Trump

Hopefully we can get back on track to talking about Melania and her role in the downfall of the world and stop trying to distract from it with misinformation and Hilary.

Galaxy

I know only what is in the public domain ( the photo in hot tub etc). I have seen him deny any knowledge etc, but then again I have watched him lie about sexual behaviour before.
I to be honest think much of the concern about epstein is absolutely to do with hatred of Trump rather than concern for the victims. There was certainly much cheering on on this site for the appointment of mandelsson despite knowing of his association with epstein. So that makes me quite uncomfortable.

You can think what you like Galaxy, as we all can. I’ve been working on the basis of what the actual known accusations and evidence are, and as far as Trump is concerned they exist. It’s not just the girls though, it’s the business dealings that are key for the final players, and that is where the difference between Trump and Clinton’s involvement is key.

Oldnproud

Very strange. And off course her announcement immediately makes most people think that in reality, the opposite from what she said is the most likely truth. Whoever put her up to this must have realized that. So who is that person and what is their motive?

A certain Mr. Trump would be my guess.

He is clutching at straws to try to make us forget the mess he is in over the Iranian war.

He has started blathering again about Greenland being poorly defended, and said he is cross with Nato "because they would not give me Greenland" (He still does not realise that Greenland is not Nato's to dispose of.)

So Melania Trump stating that she has never been a personal friend of Epstein is a classic case of misdirection.

Trump was standing right beside her all the time, and kissed her cheek after she left the rostrum, as if she was a ten year old daughter who had behaved in public as Daddy wanted her to.

It would be interesting to know how much money went into Mrs .Trump's bank account after the show!

dogsmother

I think Melania is an extremely clever lady who has been playing the long game. Surely it is the only explanation.

I tend to think this although I'm not sure she expected him to be President (Hell, I think he said that he was surprised when they made him Prezz the first time).
So she didn't think that she'd end up having to hide her racy past( nothing against "racy" just not ideal for a high-profile public servant).
I know Reddit can be a bit "out there" but she is apparently involved in a lawsuit with a journalist called "Michael Woolf" if I have remembered correctly and the judgement is imminent and may result in damaging disclosures about the First Lady. Watch this space.
Also rather than being ignorant thereof Trump may have put her up to it.
You mean he has lied ??? Heaven forfend.

I don't remember a lot of cheering here when Mandelson was appointed Galaxy, quite the opposite in fact and criticism of Trump has nothing to do with hatred.

As I said and I will say it again. Most of this noise is about hatred of Trump rather than concern for the victims, that was demonstrated very clearly in the mandelsson debacle. I know exactly who Trump is in terms of allegations, but I also know that the information released on Clinton makes me exceedingly uncomfortable, as does the lack of concern at the time about his predatory behaviour whilst in office.

There absolutely was smileless, it was along the lines of ' he is the type if tricky character who we be able to deal with Trump'.

Sorry lots of typos!

I thought she did very well considering English is not her first language. She came across as genuine and confident and I believe she has finally had enough of all the rumours and speculation.

She is smart enough to know that if there is any evidence out there of her having anything other than social acquaintance with Epstein it will be out there and will be exposed.

Likely playing the long game. I'd imagine she has some part of his money tied down for herself and her son - as long as she 'behaves' whilst he is POTUS.

A woman who is a previous friend of Melania has recently been detained and deported by ICE, following an acrimonious divorce and custody battle with one of Trump’s friends. She is threatening to “expose the truth” about them. Whatever that might be? I suspect Melania is trying to get ahead of what may come out from this woman, as well as emails that Wolff says he has

That's a new one for me bmacca, thanks.

Galaxy

There absolutely was smileless, it was along the lines of ' he is the type if tricky character who we be able to deal with Trump'.

😂
Everyone should read the original thread, I just have and had forgotten that I was going to job share with him ( reluctantly as I don’t like sharing).
It’s called Lord Peter Mandelson appointed as Ambassador to the USA.
Galaxy made an amazing prediction on the first page and it was
50/50 posters who thought it a good choice and those who didn’t.

Galaxy

As I said and I will say it again. Most of this noise is about hatred of Trump rather than concern for the victims, that was demonstrated very clearly in the mandelsson debacle. I know exactly who Trump is in terms of allegations, but I also know that the information released on Clinton makes me exceedingly uncomfortable, as does the lack of concern at the time about his predatory behaviour whilst in office.

As I said, and I’ll say it again too Galaxy, all we have to go on the is the actual evidence released so far, and the number of mentions and redactions related to individuals. Say what you will about people being driven by a hatred of Trump, or of Clinton for that matter, based on what they have read or believe, that doesn’t take away from what is hard fact, known information, and what is known to be lies. I certainly would not minimise the appalling treatment of the girls involved, and the complete lack of justice in the way the law has been operated, but I think you are looking at this in a one dimensional way if you think that the victims are the only concern here.

The victims are the concern for me casdon, I am clear about that. And something about women's rights being used as a political football ( I mean generally not necessarily on this thread).
I wish I could predict the lottery results as accurately as I can predict dodgy men Oreo .

I wonder what Trump is up to whilst his wife is getting all the attention?

Yesterday was, possibly, exactly the right time for Melania to step in with a surprise Epstein diversion, the content of which is actually quite scant.

I am concerned about the victims too, and I don’t want to minimise that. I just think that the dodgy business transactions which resulted in obscene wealth for a few ‘privileged’ people worldwide, and the links with corrupt regimes that were part of that network, is also of massive concern.

Galaxy

As I said and I will say it again. Most of this noise is about hatred of Trump rather than concern for the victims, that was demonstrated very clearly in the mandelsson debacle. I know exactly who Trump is in terms of allegations, but I also know that the information released on Clinton makes me exceedingly uncomfortable, as does the lack of concern at the time about his predatory behaviour whilst in office.

Well I do hate Trump. I hate what he represents, the male hierarchy at its worst. I hate men (and that includes Clinton) who have a sense of entitlement that allows them to prey on women and young girls for their own dissipated sexual satisfaction, and who having used and abused them and treated them like disposable objects, then legislate as 'Christians' against abortion so that the parents of a 10 year old girl I've just read about who was beaten and raped and later complained of peculiar stomach discomfort had to take her out of state to get an abortion because they fear for her mental health. These 'Christians', these men (and yes, some women) who think it's more important that a 10 year old traumatised girl is forced to give birth rather than consider what the experience might do to her, on top of the violence and rape. It makes me sick that Trump sits their with his 'faith minister' praying over him and all his close staff hovering around him, talking to him in hushed reverential tones.

Under his leadership, the manosphere has expanded... these misogynistic men are now increasingly using the Bible to back up their belief that women are born to be subservient to their men.

So yes, I do hate Trump, and Hegseth, and that university professor who believes women should not be allowed in further education and all those other Rambo-men, who've come crawling out of the woodwork under him. And I make no apology for it either.

I can't say I hate Trump Dickens but I do agree with everything you have posted.

Dickens 👏👏👏

I was going to say before I read your post that I do not hate anyone, that I find their views hateful.

However, they are loathsome, misogynistic, arrogant and the very worst type of male person.
The Bible was written by men. Jesus did not preach misogyny, he treated women with respect. Probably more of his followers and disciples were women but those records have been "lost" or dismissed.

How did they get to be in charge? Why do some women vote for them and even appear to idolise them?

I also hate Trump, but not for this reason alone. I also agree with everything Dickens said.

I don't quite understand how being vocal about these men (all of them) , and women, being held accountable is not being concerned about the victims. The more we speak up, the more likely it is that happens. And the more likely it is that it stops happening in the future.

I must have missed something in the thread that led is to this.

Back to Melania's random press conference.

I dug around and the latest theory is that, when the book on the Yorks was first published, there was information that said Melania had sex with Epstein a year before she met Trump. Melania's lawyers contacted the publisher and the book was changed for all future publications. Now, this Ungaro woman is reaching out to Melania on social media and threatening to spill the beans about something.

I could see those 2 things being the catalyst for the statement, which seems random to me at least, because I haven't read the book and don't use X. It begs the question, if she had stayed silent, would this had slipped away in the next news cycle?

I think something big is coming, but since the entire group of them are so unpredictable, it could be nothing as well!

I think this could all be avoided by releasing the Epstein files, but what do I know?

Smileless2012

I can't say I hate Trump Dickens but I do agree with everything you have posted.

Well - I suppose the hate is perhaps more for what he represents, he is after all himself a product of the environment in which he was raised.