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Keir Starmer has had a change of ^heart^

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GrannyGravy13 Sat 11-Apr-26 08:51:20

The BBC are reporting that the PM has decided not to surrender control of the Chagos Islands.

Their reporter went on to say it was after POTUS had put pressure on him saying it was not a good idea strategically. (I cain inky assume that the BBC is correct in this and has had inside information)

This after Trump originally agreed with handing the islands over to Mauritius.

The current POTUS appears to be using his power (downright interfering) here there and everywhere…

GrannyGravy13 Sat 11-Apr-26 08:52:18

cain inky should read can only 🤦‍♀️

Cossy Sat 11-Apr-26 08:58:21

This is not what I read at all!!

Trump has withdrawn his approval making this whole process more difficult (not sure why) but Starmer does still want to return these islands to their rightful owners.

So it’s not Starmer whose “changed his mind” it’s actually Trump!

keepingquiet Sat 11-Apr-26 09:12:02

Thanks Cossy

Smileless2012 Sat 11-Apr-26 09:15:16

That's my understanding too Cossy.

eazybee Sat 11-Apr-26 09:21:59

Starmer has been outflanked in a totally unnecessary manoeuvre.

OldFrill Sat 11-Apr-26 09:25:35

Here's the BBC report, Trump has withdrawn his earlier support for the deal which has scuppered it

Chagos Islands: UK shelves Diego Garcia deal after Trump opposition - BBC News share.google/oCkWJqAFY1y4LpK1I

AGAA4 Sat 11-Apr-26 09:55:14

The report I read said that Trump had scuppered it and even if he gave approval now it would be too late to get through before the recess.

NotSpaghetti Sat 11-Apr-26 10:06:03

I read about the Diego Garcia issue and that the worry is that we would have less control if we do it because Trump wants to use it for preemptive strikes.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 11-Apr-26 10:19:05

I didn’t read it CossyI watched the BBC News (Breakfast) this morning and that is how it was being reported.

Bottom line is it isn’t going to happen because Trump has changed his mind and withdrawn his previous approval of the deal

POTUS is acting like he is King of The World

David49 Sat 11-Apr-26 10:33:23

The Iran war has revived why Diego Garcia is important, as is Fairford and other bases, it may be that the US is not allowed to use airbases in the Gulf that it has been.

This war could rumble on for a long time, we all hope it's settled quickly but you don't give away useful assets in the present uncertainties.

Basgetti Sat 11-Apr-26 10:35:32

Cossy

This is not what I read at all!!

Trump has withdrawn his approval making this whole process more difficult (not sure why) but Starmer does still want to return these islands to their rightful owners.

So it’s not Starmer whose “changed his mind” it’s actually Trump!

Absolutely. KS’ hands are tied.

LemonJam Sat 11-Apr-26 11:05:44

It is Trump that has scuppered these plans not Starmer as the US has failed to confirm its approval (a formal exchange of letters from the US is a legal necessity for the treaty to be enacted) within the time period needed to pass the legislation before Parliament is prorogued in the coming weeks.

Elegran Sat 11-Apr-26 11:11:50

It is not Starmer changing his mind, it is Trump blocking the move with legalities. I think it is being shelved for the moment because with everything else that has been going on internationally, there is not time for the formalities before the current parliamentary session ends.

The Spectator says that it is "a political question and a legal question, because what may not have been understood thus far is that American consent to the transfer of sovereignty is a legal condition, not simply a political necessity – and may not yet have been granted."
spectator.com/article/how-trump-could-block-the-chagos-deal/

Other complications are that the UK and the US share the use of the base on the island, with legal consequences. Because Mauritius is a non nuclear power there will be a restriction on nuclear Submarines and US aircraft carriers dropping in for repairs. There is also a possibility that if the UK returns the Islands, the US would use that as a lever on Greenland (sorry, I can't find the mention of those points again to post a link to them)

Le Monde says:-
"Sir Keir Starmer has been forced to drop legislation which would cede sovereignty of the Chagos Islands to Mauritius in a further deterioration of relations with Donald Trump

The Times has been told that a bill underpinning the controversial deal will not be included in the King's Speech next month after the US president branded it an "act of great stupidity" and withdrew his support

The government stands by the deal and will attempt to persuade Trump to change his mind but has acknowledged that it cannot proceed without his backing

Ministers are "deeply frustrated" with Trump, who initially supported the deal after extensive discussions between intelligence agencies but changed his mind during a dispute with Nato over plans to seize Greenland

The government believes that it puts the future of Diego Garcia, the UK-US base in the islands which has been used during the Iran war, at risk

It is concerned that Mauritius will mount a legal challenge granting it access to the waters around Diego Garcia, making it harder for the base to host nuclear submarines and patrol surrounding waters"
x.com/Steven_Swinford/status/2042690699158503677
"Starmer has previously insisted that international legal rulings have put Britain's ownership of the Chagos in doubt and only a deal with Mauritius would guarantee that the base remains functional. Government officials cited by the BBC said the agreement was not being entirely abandoned.

But they said the legislation underpinning it would not pass before parliament is dissolved in coming weeks and a new Chagos bill is not expected to be put forward.

Britain kept control of the Chagos Islands after Mauritius gained independence in the 1960s. It evicted thousands of Chagos islanders who have since mounted a series of legal claims for compensation in British courts.

In 2019, the International Court of Justice recommended that Britain hand the archipelago to Mauritius. The deal would have given Britain a 99-year lease of the base, with the option to extend."
www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2026/04/11/uk-to-shelve-chagos-handover-after-trump-criticism_6752311_4.html

nanna8 Sat 11-Apr-26 11:13:29

Why do you want to pay to give it away ? I don’t get it ….

LemonJam Sat 11-Apr-26 11:18:33

Elegran 11.11: 'It is concerned that Mauritius will mount a legal challenge granting it access to the waters around Diego Garcia, making it harder for the base to host nuclear submarines and patrol surrounding waters"

I agree with everything in your post. Trump is short sighted as access may be severely disadvantaged if Mauritius mounts such a legal challenge and is successful.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 11-Apr-26 11:20:04

LemonJam

It is Trump that has scuppered these plans not Starmer as the US has failed to confirm its approval (a formal exchange of letters from the US is a legal necessity for the treaty to be enacted) within the time period needed to pass the legislation before Parliament is prorogued in the coming weeks.

Yes, it is, definitely POTUS who has caused the handover to be cancelled.

Which I pointed out in the OP

Perhaps I should have been more precise with my wording

MT62 Sat 11-Apr-26 11:25:55

I never understood why? Oh well another u-turn.

Doodledog Sat 11-Apr-26 11:27:47

It's not about a change of heart, but a change in world politics. Even that doesn't really describe what's going on - I'm not sure Trump is being political, so much as unhinged.

Either way, the thread title is misleading, and does seem designed to blame KS for something over which he has no control.

LemonJam Sat 11-Apr-26 11:28:41

Nanna8 11.13: "Why do you want to pay to give it away ? I don’t get it …."

The constitution of Mauritius states the Republic of Mauritius includes the Lagos Archipelago. 'Chagos Archipelago sovereignty dispute' on Wikipedia is one source that may help you understand all the background Nanna8.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 11-Apr-26 11:32:36

Doodledog

It's not about a change of heart, but a change in world politics. Even that doesn't really describe what's going on - I'm not sure Trump is being political, so much as unhinged.

Either way, the thread title is misleading, and does seem designed to blame KS for something over which he has no control.

It was how the BBC reported it Doodledog

I also said it was down to POTUS, and that he is basically pulling the strings. If my explanation is too simplistic, sorry, that’s just how I heard/saw it.

POTUS appears to be a master puppeteer at the present time, meddling across the world…

LemonJam Sat 11-Apr-26 11:36:21

MT62; "I never understood why? Oh well another u-turn".

It is a u turn by Trump, NOT Starmer. Given the US is preventing the process of legalising the treaty necessary to comply with Marine Protected Area international law and the International Court of Justice September 2018 ruling this treaty must be enacted.

As now not enacted and US has made it disagreement position clear. Mauritius is in a prime position to mount a legal challenge as already set out. Very, very short sighted of Trump but then he has never been one to resist a legal challenge. Tump may pay no heed to rulings in US courts but it's a different matter on the world stage.

LemonJam Sat 11-Apr-26 11:38:05

There is much global animosity at the moment towards Trump as a result of his genocidal statements and actions relating to Iran.

Mauritius may well find allies to support it in any legal challenge in order to disadvantage Trump.

LemonJam Sat 11-Apr-26 11:39:48

Thereby also disadvantage UK as a treaty partner.

OldFrill Sat 11-Apr-26 12:24:08

GrannyGravy13

LemonJam

It is Trump that has scuppered these plans not Starmer as the US has failed to confirm its approval (a formal exchange of letters from the US is a legal necessity for the treaty to be enacted) within the time period needed to pass the legislation before Parliament is prorogued in the coming weeks.

Yes, it is, definitely POTUS who has caused the handover to be cancelled.

Which I pointed out in the OP

Perhaps I should have been more precise with my wording

Your chosen title "Keir Starmer has had a change of heart" couldn't really be further from the truth.