Silly me! It's when you visit a children's hospital and wave at the crowds. As well as visiting a homeless refuge and a War Memorial. Not forgetting attending an Invictus event and the last post ceremony on Anzac Day.
Plus the inevitable money making events which are now allowed.
Harry and Meghan's visit to Australia, (in very high shoes and expensive outfits).
Forgive my confusion. Am I missing the point? 😆
Well they’ve gone now, back to the land of Trump and gory. Short stay, no one much cared what they did or said.
And yet this Thread has reached 11 pages?
While so much else is happening world wide.
Could that be considered a 'success' for them?
I don't think so although, due to their delusional tendencies they will say it was.
They will have made money by flogging her clothes, but I don't think they will have gained respect except from some fans who sound a bit unhinged....
Rosie55- Meghan is the most trolled woman in the world - JKR a significant amount but not so much or so often.
Nanna8: "Well they’ve gone now, back to the land of Trump and gory. Short stay, no one much cared what they did or said".
Clearly many people have either cared- reported and/or commented- just look at the length of this post 😂
LemonJam
Nanna8: "Well they’ve gone now, back to the land of Trump and gory. Short stay, no one much cared what they did or said".
Clearly many people have either cared- reported and/or commented- just look at the length of this post 😂
Yes, but we're not in Australia!
(More's the pity, wish I was there 😥)
Rosie51
LemonJam
Rosie51 18.52: "Are you completely unaware of the horrendous rape and death threats J K Rowling gets from TRAs? Have you not seen the signs at marches and demonstrations with threats to her? I don't agree with trolling anyone, but I've never seen anyone photographed with a placard calling for Meghan's death"
No I am not unaware. JK R is one of the most heavily trolled public figures on social media due to her vocal views on gender identity and transgender rights. While she has experienced significant trolling other figures are cited as receiving extreme, higher levels of on line and media vitriol.
Elon Musk due to his ownership of X and political stances and Meghan, , and I do agree more than any other woman in the world, frequently subjected to intense , sustained on line and media harassment and trolling in the UK and international spheres.Are you able to link to sources? Do you have evidence of death or rape threats to Meghan? Criticism of Meghan isn't in the same category as death and rape threats. Ever seen an X post that called for Meghan to be raped by a barb wire wrapped baseball bat? Ever seen a post that wanted Meghan to die in a 'grease fire'? You almost seem to think the abuse of J K Rowling is somehow excusable if not justified.
I think you'd find if you researched that J K Rowling doesn't post about transgender rights, only about women's (the sex class that is female) rights to dignity, privacy and fair competition. She respects transgender rights to live their lives as they wish but expects that women's rights and protections, especially to single sex spaces should also be respected and protected. Do you have a problem with any of that?
Well said, Rosie51.
Most comments on here are not trolling, they are considered comments. If someone wants to constantly live in the limelight, troll or gaslight members of their family, one of whom happens to be our Head of State, and also their staff and then surely they should expect some considered criticism in return?
JKR is standing up for the rights of women and some of the trolls who make such vile threats against her should be found, charged and sentenced to imprisonment.
Allira 10.50: "Most comments on here are not trolling, they are considered comments. If someone wants to constantly live in the limelight, troll or gaslight members of their family, one of whom happens to be our Head of State, and also their staff and then surely they should expect some considered criticism in return?
JKR is standing up for the rights of women and some of the trolls who make such vile threats against her should be found, charged and sentenced to imprisonment"
No one has said this post thread is "trolling". No one has said either the royal family or H and M can not be criticised- both are open to scrutiny and comment. In my view some of the comments on this thread are not carefully considered.
My view is that M is trolled more than any other woman in the world and is disproportionate. I have not defended any threats against JKR. Threatening placards at marches are not acceptable. Neither are repeated, actual credible threats on someone's life.
Perhaps Rosie51 or yourself might be interested in finding out more about how M was targeted and received death threats. Just look up the previous Metropolitan Police assistant Commissioner's comments on line as he left his post, Neil Bass.
He said whilst he was in office M faced "disgusting and very real " threats to her life" and were specifically targeted. He said the threats were "disgusting and very real" and "there were MANY serious, credible threats" on her life. "People were arrested and prosecuted"
My view is that M is trolled more than any other woman in the world and is disproportionate
How do you assess that? Have you done a lot of research?
Allira- 11.37.
Do you hold an alternative view? If so which other woman in the world would you suggest is trolled on line and in the media as often, to a greater extent, internationally, than M, that has received as many, real and credible, actual death threats, that have been investigated and prosecuted?
Meg is a grifter and Harry is a weak man who just follows her about.
This was a pseudo royal tour to make money.
She is disliked, any surprises there?
LemonJam
Allira- 11.37.
Do you hold an alternative view? If so which other woman in the world would you suggest is trolled on line and in the media as often, to a greater extent, internationally, than M, that has received as many, real and credible, actual death threats, that have been investigated and prosecuted?
Nah, not really. 🤷♀️
I'm not that interested in celebs, don't read trashy articles about celebs unless there's a thread on Gransnet or I might have a personal interest.
Allira- 12.45; "Nah, not really. 🤷♀️"
That's fine- I'm happy to rest my view that M is trolled on line and in the media more often, to a greater extent, internationally, than any other woman in the world. And that she has received many, real and credible, actual death threats, that have resulted in prosecutions.
Well, she does seem to go through life upsetting people.
Not that any of them would be trolling her, of course, as they maintain a dignified silence in the main, family, friends and those very many staff members who have been left bewildered and distressed.
Trolling is vile whoever the target.
Diverse views and discussion are fine and if someone seeks publicity it is part and parcel of living a life in the limelight.
Allira:Well, she does seem to go through life upsetting people.
Not that any of them would be trolling her, of course, as they maintain a dignified silence in the main, family, friends and those very many staff members who have been left bewildered and distressed.
Trolling is vile whoever the target.
Diverse views and discussion are fine and if someone seeks publicity it is part and parcel of living a life in the limelight"
Does she. Some more than others it would seem. M's other family members maintaining a dignified silence- no that's true. M's father is very vocal for example. Recent father's hospital stay he actively sought DM coverage and criticised M- she maintained a fairly dignified not rising to the bait response. There was much disproportionate trolling of M on social media in the press about that as a result of her father seeking press coverage.
The RF have spokespeople/"friends" and communication employees who speak to the press- but fair to say both RY and H and M have been somewhat more constrained more recently.
Both H and M and respective family members left bewildered and distressed most likely- sad all round.
I do agree trolling is vile- we should discourage it and not amplify it.
I believe Meghan has lost 18 members of staff in just a few years.
That is a large turnover. Those who worked for her when she was a working Royal have maintained a silence. I don't know if subsequent ones have done the same as I am not a follower of celebs which is what they are now.
Nor am I particularly a follower of the Royal Family I should add.
Can I just suggest that, if you are quoting someone else's post, you might use ^^ so that it makes it clear it is someone else's words.
I've noticed that many new posters don't seem aware of that facility, not just you.
Only a suggestion, not an order!
Bold: * * gives hello
Underline: _ _ gives hello
Italics: ^ ^ gives hello
Strikethrough: -- -- gives hello
Allira 13.27.
You certainly seem to be a follower of M Allira and appear to want to post negative inferences about her. Not sure what you source is, or what the circumstances of "lost' employees might be. Were they actually lost, resigned, sacked for breach of confidentiality clauses, left to have a baby, moved country- could be all kinds of circumstances. Is 18 a bad number compared to others? Neither am I interested in speculation of how many staff may have been appointed, lost, dismissed, resigned or left over how ever many years for any other celebrity or RF member.
With reference to your suggestions- I agree its useful for posters to make clear who they are quoting or who they are responding to. I always seek to make clear. I use inverted commas to quote other posters, usually after typing their name and time of their quote. As I directly followed you at 13.15, I did make clear your name and quoted you directly and ended your direct quote with speech inverted commas. this time- didnt add the time. If you look you can see the inverted commas.
As for stars, underscores or strike throughs, links etc my MacBook doesn't allow those facilities on Gransnet so not able to comply with that suggestion - sorry.
If anyone else has a MacBook and has worked out the way to do so please feel free to advise 😊
Harry is weak but with a vindictive streak..he is unable to see other's points of view.
Meghan is fake and greedy.
Neither are doing themselves any favours by not taking advice.
I feel sorry for their children who are called Prince and Princess but have no relationship with other members the royal family!
I wonder how they will judge their parents in the future!
First and last post on this thread, Meghan appears to be a chancer and Harry is totally influenced by her.
My opinion and I shall stick with it.
LemonJam
You seem to be Meg’s number one fan! 😄
Also LemonJam to make your posts clear, why not use the quote facility which then appears in a box along with your comment if you can’t use the italics.
Oreo 14.49 - I've just tried pressing the quote facility as you state- that doesn't work on a MacBook either 🤷♀️
No I'm not Meghan's biggest fan Oreo. I am neutral towards her.
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