Commercial Gambling is a Social Evil

Rosie51

Allira DH just brought home a couple of lottery tickets he won in a raffle.

That's double gambling that is!

I'm a gambler, I buy National Lottery entries, raffle tickets and have Premium Bonds.

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Not one number on the Euromillions!

Allira DH just brought home a couple of lottery tickets he won in a raffle.

That's double gambling that is!

I'm a gambler, I buy National Lottery entries, raffle tickets and have Premium Bonds.

I don't know if any other GNs find this happening.

I browse the internet quite a bit but I am always very careful untick any boxes that allow third party access.

Nevertheless, I often get as many as twenty or so gambling notifications in my Junk file every day. They mainly offer free spins, whatever they are, as an inducement to join the sites. I should add that, apart from a bit of a flutter with 2p pieces in an arcade and the occasional raffle, I don't gamble.

What worries me is the fact that these sites appear to be totally unregulated and they must be tapping into other sites that have no relevance to betting and gambling. No doubt these sites are selling lists on.

It would be all too easy for me to click on one or more of these gambling sites for a 'free spin,' to get sucked in and end up on the slippery slope of gambling addiction.

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I hear North Korea is nice at this time of year.

Although there are two casinos there now (strictly for visitors - oh yeah?)
The casinos are designed purely for revenue extraction, allowing current Supreme Leader “Rocketman” Kim Jong Un, grandson of regime founder Kim Il Sung, to tap into international gambling demand whilst maintaining a hard internal ideological line.

Oh, and horse racing is allowed again because it brings in revenue. However, it is strictly for "the elite" - in an "egalitarian" society. 🤔

Wyllow3

I guess the difference is the effect gambling has on ordinary and humble people as opposed to those who can afford to "lose".

*I don't think advertising gambling should be allowed. Period. cut off the life support system*

I agree.

I just don’t think gambling should be advertised at all and that online gambling should have more controls.

I don’t think gambling or events using animals are the same at all, I don’t think either should be banned, but much better regulated and safer.

Allira nooooooooooooo 🙀🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾

GrannyGravy13

I am definitely against gambling adverts, but cannot see gambling per se ever having a blanket ban

Banning anything due to a small percentage of the population having a problem/addiction is far too authoritarian for my liking.

Let's ban alcohol too!
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I am definitely against gambling adverts, but cannot see gambling per se ever having a blanket ban

Banning anything due to a small percentage of the population having a problem/addiction is far too authoritarian for my liking.

Allira

Wyllow3

Coalition to End Gambling Ads (CEGA)

See their front page

cega.org.uk

It's never going to happen.

Gambling of one kind or another is as old as human history goes back.

Sorry, DH was talking to me (asking me to check last night's lottery ticket 😁) and I didn't read your post properly.

Yes, I think gambling adverts should be banned.

Gambling itself will never be banned.

Wyllow3

Coalition to End Gambling Ads (CEGA)

See their front page

cega.org.uk

It's never going to happen.

Gambling of one kind or another is as old as human history goes back.

Desdemona

So, commercial gambling is what - betting on horses, doing the national lottery etc?

Horse racing
Greyhound racing (Horses are generally far better cared for than greyhounds)
Casinos
Lotteries
Scratch cards
Bingo
Online gambling (dangerous!)
Electronic machines
Slot machines - apparently the most addictive form of gambling. I'd better not save my pennies and twopences to give to the DGC if we go to the seaside 😲

DH just brought home a couple of lottery tickets he won in a raffle.

I think that the most powerful "spreading the gambling possibilities" is probably social media, untouched by TV, but it's some way maybe.

my mother is addicted to scratchcards

Coalition to End Gambling Ads (CEGA)

See their front page

cega.org.uk

Might have a rather big protest from all the Bingo Bunnies

Allira

You're not going to stop it by complaining on Gransnet.

Set up an online petition.

No chance.
One’s fun, the other’s work.

So, commercial gambling is what - betting on horses, doing the national lottery etc?

You're not going to stop it by complaining on Gransnet.

Set up an online petition.

Like dog fighting, using animals for gambling turns sentient beings into tools for profit. The difference is branding, not principle.

Greyhound racing and horse racing are often presented as sport or tradition, but both depend on animals being pushed, controlled, and discarded when they are no longer profitable. Injury, stress, and premature death are not side issues—they are built into the system.

Enjoyment or cultural acceptance does not justify practices that rely on exploitation and suffering.

If cruelty is wrong in one context, it is wrong in all. There is no moral basis for continuing these industries.

I guess the difference is the effect gambling has on ordinary and humble people as opposed to those who can afford to "lose".

I don't think advertising gambling should be allowed. Period. cut off the life support system

If a punter goes into a betting shop and puts, say, 20 quid on a horse and it comes last then he's lost his 20 quid. But that's all. It's called gambling. Sleazy and sordid.

If someone plays the stock market and loses when the world markets take a dive because a half-crazed lunatic like Trump picks a fight with the Pope, slags off NATO, derides assorted world leaders, tries to be Jesus Christ, etc, then it often leads to many people losing their jobs and possibly entire industries collapsing.

But that's called market forces (commercial gambling in other words) which makes it sound respectable - not sleazy and sordid like gambling.

What the Hell is the difference?

Smileless2012

I don't agree that gambling should be likened to animal cruelty.

Neither do I. The reference to both in the OP does seem to conflate the two.
I don’t like gambling especially online, because it can lead to addiction. However the pleasure my late MIL got from an afternoon of bingo with her friends at the local “age concern” group helped as she became less mobile.
(Yes I know it’s now Age UK but it wasn’t back then.)

Caleo

Same as the illegal drugs industry,; commercial gambling both gives pleasure and ruins lives.

Same as commercial and illegal dog fighting; commercial gambling with dogs is cruelty to dogs for the sake of profit.

Commercialised horse racing gives pleasure as does cruelty to low value horses in bull fighting;

No excuse!

I havnt heard of placing bets on bull fighting.

The evils off gambling is nothing to do with horse racing or football or anything else, it's the addiction thats the problem, the illusion that you might get lucky. All gambling is commercial the regulation is far too lax, especially online where it's too easy to borrow online then fritter it away online.

As for the horses, if it wasn't for the gambling there would be no horse racing, the industry would collapse. That wouldnt bother me bother me one jot, it would destroy a lot of jobs and leave a big hole in tax revenue.

Gambling is 'ok' as long as it doesn't lead to an addiction, likewise alcohol but cruelty to animals is never ok.

Smileless, here is an actual quote :

"Same as commercial and illegal dog fighting; commercial gambling with dogs is cruelty to dogs for the sake of profit.

Commercialised horse racing gives pleasure as does cruelty to low value horses in bull fighting;"