Commercial Gambling is a Social Evil

I don't agree that gambling should be likened to animal cruelty.

Smileless2012

I don't agree that gambling should be likened to animal cruelty.

You misrepresent me Smileless.

Better to quote whatever it may be that you disagree with.

You posted gambling is a social evil "same as" dog fighting, horse racing and horses used in bullfighting Caleo. I don't agree that gambling is the same.

Smileless2012

You posted gambling is a social evil "same as" dog fighting, horse racing and horses used in bullfighting Caleo. I don't agree that gambling is the same.

Smileless, could you possibly rephrase , and say that gambling on e.g. football is is much more okay because it does not depend on cruel use of animals?

Smileless, here is an actual quote :

"Same as commercial and illegal dog fighting; commercial gambling with dogs is cruelty to dogs for the sake of profit.

Commercialised horse racing gives pleasure as does cruelty to low value horses in bull fighting;"

Gambling is 'ok' as long as it doesn't lead to an addiction, likewise alcohol but cruelty to animals is never ok.

Caleo

Same as the illegal drugs industry,; commercial gambling both gives pleasure and ruins lives.

Same as commercial and illegal dog fighting; commercial gambling with dogs is cruelty to dogs for the sake of profit.

Commercialised horse racing gives pleasure as does cruelty to low value horses in bull fighting;

No excuse!

I havnt heard of placing bets on bull fighting.

The evils off gambling is nothing to do with horse racing or football or anything else, it's the addiction thats the problem, the illusion that you might get lucky. All gambling is commercial the regulation is far too lax, especially online where it's too easy to borrow online then fritter it away online.

As for the horses, if it wasn't for the gambling there would be no horse racing, the industry would collapse. That wouldnt bother me bother me one jot, it would destroy a lot of jobs and leave a big hole in tax revenue.

Smileless2012

I don't agree that gambling should be likened to animal cruelty.

Neither do I. The reference to both in the OP does seem to conflate the two.
I don’t like gambling especially online, because it can lead to addiction. However the pleasure my late MIL got from an afternoon of bingo with her friends at the local “age concern” group helped as she became less mobile.
(Yes I know it’s now Age UK but it wasn’t back then.)

If a punter goes into a betting shop and puts, say, 20 quid on a horse and it comes last then he's lost his 20 quid. But that's all. It's called gambling. Sleazy and sordid.

If someone plays the stock market and loses when the world markets take a dive because a half-crazed lunatic like Trump picks a fight with the Pope, slags off NATO, derides assorted world leaders, tries to be Jesus Christ, etc, then it often leads to many people losing their jobs and possibly entire industries collapsing.

But that's called market forces (commercial gambling in other words) which makes it sound respectable - not sleazy and sordid like gambling.

What the Hell is the difference?

I guess the difference is the effect gambling has on ordinary and humble people as opposed to those who can afford to "lose".

I don't think advertising gambling should be allowed. Period. cut off the life support system

Like dog fighting, using animals for gambling turns sentient beings into tools for profit. The difference is branding, not principle.

Greyhound racing and horse racing are often presented as sport or tradition, but both depend on animals being pushed, controlled, and discarded when they are no longer profitable. Injury, stress, and premature death are not side issues—they are built into the system.

Enjoyment or cultural acceptance does not justify practices that rely on exploitation and suffering.

If cruelty is wrong in one context, it is wrong in all. There is no moral basis for continuing these industries.

You're not going to stop it by complaining on Gransnet.

Set up an online petition.

So, commercial gambling is what - betting on horses, doing the national lottery etc?

Allira

You're not going to stop it by complaining on Gransnet.

Set up an online petition.

No chance.
One’s fun, the other’s work.

Might have a rather big protest from all the Bingo Bunnies

Coalition to End Gambling Ads (CEGA)

See their front page

cega.org.uk

my mother is addicted to scratchcards

I think that the most powerful "spreading the gambling possibilities" is probably social media, untouched by TV, but it's some way maybe.

Desdemona

So, commercial gambling is what - betting on horses, doing the national lottery etc?

Horse racing
Greyhound racing (Horses are generally far better cared for than greyhounds)
Casinos
Lotteries
Scratch cards
Bingo
Online gambling (dangerous!)
Electronic machines
Slot machines - apparently the most addictive form of gambling. I'd better not save my pennies and twopences to give to the DGC if we go to the seaside 😲

DH just brought home a couple of lottery tickets he won in a raffle.

Wyllow3

Coalition to End Gambling Ads (CEGA)

See their front page

cega.org.uk

It's never going to happen.

Gambling of one kind or another is as old as human history goes back.

Allira

Wyllow3

Coalition to End Gambling Ads (CEGA)

See their front page

cega.org.uk

It's never going to happen.

Gambling of one kind or another is as old as human history goes back.

Sorry, DH was talking to me (asking me to check last night's lottery ticket 😁) and I didn't read your post properly.

Yes, I think gambling adverts should be banned.

Gambling itself will never be banned.

I am definitely against gambling adverts, but cannot see gambling per se ever having a blanket ban

Banning anything due to a small percentage of the population having a problem/addiction is far too authoritarian for my liking.

GrannyGravy13

I am definitely against gambling adverts, but cannot see gambling per se ever having a blanket ban

Banning anything due to a small percentage of the population having a problem/addiction is far too authoritarian for my liking.

Let's ban alcohol too!
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Allira nooooooooooooo 🙀🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾