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King Charles - job well done

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Wyllow3 Tue 28-Apr-26 20:54:56

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c4g5lly7qg8t#player

I watched it all, there is a summary on the page above.

He did quite a bit of challenging, more than expected.

Most significant:

Praised an Independent Judiciary. And the whole house applauded on their feet, not just the democrats. Mentioned the need for checks and balances on power

Raised climate change pretty strongly

Nato needed co-operation inc Europe not nations standing alone - he reminded the US on cooperation after 9/11.

Total need to support Ukraine (hint, hint)

Not to be inward looking.

This was one very very clever and well researched and written speech. Clear, articulate, and clever - It went down very well and he is clearly respected, it will be interesting to see what the US press make of it.

valdali Mon 04-May-26 22:47:09

vegansrock

But maybe we should be able to vote for them?

How can they be above politics, & impartial for everyone, if they have to campaign to be elected? Or would you suggest we just get a sheet of portraits of the likely candidates & choose the ones who look how we think a Monarch should look?
& given that continuity is a huge positive feature (look at Queen Elizabeth & 15 Prime Ministers that she interacted with) how often should we elect this hypothetical voted-for Monarch?

Samwam Mon 04-May-26 23:02:59

They not above politics, Kings Consent King vets legislation that affects his interests, there is lobbying MPs. Shouldn't be allowed.

He would not stand to be questioned, as they only agree before hand what questions they'll answer. So wouldn't stand up and answer straight.

As for continuity who wants three King's one after the other for next 100 years from one family. Charles Work shy William and George boring.

Allira Mon 04-May-26 23:13:20

How charming!
Surely we can discuss this without resorting to such language?

Or perhaps that is beyond you?

Mojack26 Mon 04-May-26 23:35:37

Wyllow3 who wrote his speech?

Rosie51 Tue 05-May-26 00:27:31

Allira

How charming!
Surely we can discuss this without resorting to such language?

Or perhaps that is beyond you?

I quite agree! And attacking a child is punching down to the nth degree, absolutely pathetic. Bullies speak loudly about themselves, not others.

nanna8 Tue 05-May-26 00:29:43

Yup, I agree ,too. Jealousy is such a curse.

Samwam Tue 05-May-26 08:14:10

I'm talking about the span of a hundred years making them old men when they become king. Charles could be king for maybe 10 20 years, then William would be 50 to 60, he could reign for 40 years making Gorge at least 60 70. It's not about envy its about equality.

Hopefully before that people would have voted for a Republic.

AGAA4 Tue 05-May-26 08:28:48

Samwam

I'm talking about the span of a hundred years making them old men when they become king. Charles could be king for maybe 10 20 years, then William would be 50 to 60, he could reign for 40 years making Gorge at least 60 70. It's not about envy its about equality.

Hopefully before that people would have voted for a Republic.

So we can have a president like Trump? I think not.

Samwam Tue 05-May-26 08:48:56

No, it would like the Irish President Catherine Connolly, a parliamentary republic. That's all.

Anniebach Tue 05-May-26 09:13:09

Before Catherine Connelly, Michael Higgins Labour

Menopauselbitch Tue 05-May-26 11:04:31

Charles does one good thing and everything’s forgotten? Well not me. He’s been pretty useless until he read a few words from a script.

Allira Tue 05-May-26 11:05:57

Samwam

No, it would like the Irish President Catherine Connolly, a parliamentary republic. That's all.

😂😂😂

I was waiting for Ireland to be given as an example!!

Allira Tue 05-May-26 11:14:53

Samwam

I'm talking about the span of a hundred years making them old men when they become king. Charles could be king for maybe 10 20 years, then William would be 50 to 60, he could reign for 40 years making Gorge at least 60 70. It's not about envy its about equality.

Hopefully before that people would have voted for a Republic.

And Trump is nearly 80.
Putin 73
Xi Jinping 72

Macron is a spring chicken!

But of course, our Monarch does not have the power that these old Presidents do, that is why our Constitutional Monarchy is such a better system

Jaberwok Tue 05-May-26 13:47:26

This is the problem with republicans, they always resort to negative personal comments, even referring to a 12 year old as boring! Do you personally know this youngster? If not, how do you know he is boring? Admittedly he seems polite, well mannered and unassuming, which I suppose these days equals boring. As for William, again do you know him personally? If not, how on earth do you know that he is workshy? Are you privy to his daily routine? I very much doubt it!

Iam64 Tue 05-May-26 14:07:09

Attacking a 12 year old boy, borninto a hereditary role he might not have chosen if given a choice, hits a new low imo.

I confess to republican leanings in my younger days. The longer I live, the greater my understanding of the significance of the monarchy.
I also increasingly dislike sneering, cold hearted comments

Allira Tue 05-May-26 14:11:19

Iam64

Attacking a 12 year old boy, borninto a hereditary role he might not have chosen if given a choice, hits a new low imo.

I confess to republican leanings in my younger days. The longer I live, the greater my understanding of the significance of the monarchy.
I also increasingly dislike sneering, cold hearted comments

I also increasingly dislike sneering, cold hearted comments

Nasty, aren't they.

They also show a lack of knowledge and understanding of how a Constitutional Monarchy works and the respective rôles of Head of State and Government.

Norah Tue 05-May-26 14:21:36

Samwam

They not above politics, Kings Consent King vets legislation that affects his interests, there is lobbying MPs. Shouldn't be allowed.

He would not stand to be questioned, as they only agree before hand what questions they'll answer. So wouldn't stand up and answer straight.

As for continuity who wants three King's one after the other for next 100 years from one family. Charles Work shy William and George boring.

I know nothing regarding the RF apart from what I read on GN. They're not featured in my reading of The Economist. However, I doubt anyone here knows either, I'm certain NDA exist.

It's best not to be overly critical. Republican or not.

Luckygirl3 Tue 05-May-26 14:42:47

Whatever one's views about the monarchy I think most people will agree that Charles did a good job in the US.
I've always felt a bit sorry for him, shovelled down the publuc school/armed services route which it was clear did not suit him. Then expected to marry the chosen one whom he did not love. Could he have said No? ... I guess so, but not easy.
He has espoused and initiated some good causes and been an advocate for the environment before that became the in thing.
I suppose I think he is doing his best ... he can do no more.
The Andrew payoff sticks in the throat though ... don't know if that was his idea.
I am happier with things as they stand than an elected president... the mind boggles ... but it all comes down to the person. William does not look as though he is shaping up to be a wrongful so far.

Luckygirl3 Tue 05-May-26 14:43:41

Wrong'un

Samwam Tue 05-May-26 15:33:18

I said that the hundred year span of Charles William George will be old men when become king not the ages they are now.

The presidents such as Trump quoted are like I explained, not be the type of president we would have, ours would be a parliamentary republic similar to Ireland, what we have now only democratic from top to bottom.

The monarchy does get involved in politics vets legislation that affects interests and lobbying, he does not allow people who own their house to buy the land it sits on, in the Isle of Scilly which unfair, and he is exempted from environmental laws etc. The monarchy is the most expensive in Europe £500 million compared to £5 million the president of Ireland. Also the royals spend our money like water on themselves for many trips when not doing the few engagements they do which if you look on their list they don't do much.

That's all from me. I know a few like the monarchy, polling shows it's not as popular now.

Also What did they know about Andrew they are not telling as yet but would have known.

Anniebach Tue 05-May-26 15:57:20

It’s amazing that you know what the royal family know

nanna8 Wed 06-May-26 02:44:18

Just one look at some of the world’s Presidents is enough to put me off. Starting with the US of A. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

Samwam Wed 06-May-26 07:28:31

nanna8

Just one look at some of the world’s Presidents is enough to put me off. Starting with the US of A. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.

A parliamentary president not an executive president in charge of the state like Trump. A parliamentary president will have a limited role, democratic from top to bottom.

It is broken and can't be fixed. Above the law unaccountable. What did they know for many years about Andrew and covered it up, we are asking on Saturday What did you know?

Jaberwok Wed 06-May-26 08:11:49

A lot of families have their black sheep and the RF is no different, which doesn't mean the whole family is tarred. As for cover ups! Jimmy Seville comes to mind, as do many others including Peter Mandelson. What DID happen to that phone? Ummmm! Should ALL members of the government lose their positions for this particular cover up? Obviously not. I would much rather stay with the system we have, than have some ambitious, probably former politician whose loyalty to this country is at best suspect.

nanna8 Wed 06-May-26 08:12:38

Good luck with that one. The British monarchy will remain. Just as well Andrew isn’t the immediate heir,though.