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Backseat Driver, Former PM Tony Blair Reckons The Triple-Lock...

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mae13 Fri 01-May-26 04:15:01

....should go as it's "unaffordable". Today's Guardian.

Well, multi-millionaire Tony would know everything there is to know about existing on one of the lowest state pensions in the known world, wouldn't he?

And the supercilious-smiley Reeves is talking about "hard choices".

Why don't they cut to the chase, stop forever going for the low-hanging fruit and simply make euthanasia at pension age mandatory?

And that's the truth, isn't it Tony and Rachel?

CV2020 Tue 05-May-26 07:58:43

Well said!!

Doodledog Tue 05-May-26 09:52:51

Agreed. I don’t think that the personal views of MPs should decide something like this. There are all sorts of reasons why people might object (eg religion or personal experience) and whilst those are valid reasons for the MPs/lords concerned they don’t necessarily represent the views of their constituents or the population at large. I’m not sure how else it could be decided, other than a referendum (no thanks!) but not that way.

M0nica Thu 07-May-26 16:24:05

Look what has happened with abortion. When it is discovered during pregnancy that the child expected will have some form of disability, Downes Syndrome, for example, parents have the option of talking to doctors and experts before making a choice to continue with the pregnancy. However it tends to be assumed that the parents will decide on an aborton. A number of those who over the years who have said that they wish to continue with the pregnancy have met with at least disapproval and at times active criticsm for bringing a disabled child into the world who will just be a liability and burden on the state.

I am with FranP on this. The general consensus on the Assisted d
Dying Bill was that, it was a very poor bill, badly drawn up. However much people may support such a cause, it is better to delay passing one than passing one that will only cause more problems than it solves.

Basgetti Wed 13-May-26 12:07:59

M0nica

Look what has happened with abortion. When it is discovered during pregnancy that the child expected will have some form of disability, Downes Syndrome, for example, parents have the option of talking to doctors and experts before making a choice to continue with the pregnancy. However it tends to be assumed that the parents will decide on an aborton. A number of those who over the years who have said that they wish to continue with the pregnancy have met with at least disapproval and at times active criticsm for bringing a disabled child into the world who will just be a liability and burden on the state.

I am with FranP on this. The general consensus on the Assisted d
Dying Bill was that, it was a very poor bill, badly drawn up. However much people may support such a cause, it is better to delay passing one than passing one that will only cause more problems than it solves.

But expectant parents have that choice, MOnica. No- one is forced to bring a child into the world if they feel they could not care for that child for life.
Shouldn’t the oldest in our society have the same respect and the choice to end a life they can no longer cope with?

Basgetti Wed 13-May-26 12:08:59

Not even the oldest. I posted too quickly. Any adult, with terminal illness, who just wants to go to sleep with dignity.

Anniebach Wed 13-May-26 12:46:34

O/P, Tony Blair won 3 consecutive general elections

Fallingstar Wed 13-May-26 13:14:13

I also think that other countries generally have a lower pension age. Many of us on here retired at 65, but anyone who is 65 this year has to wait until they are 67, it is going up all the time. And not everyone who is 65 now is fit and able to work another two years. And most regions only give bus passes to people of pensionable age so they don’t get that either. If they keep putting the pensionable age up most will have died before they can claim it.

M0nica Wed 13-May-26 14:51:24

Basgetti yiu missed my point on abortion completely.

Abortion is meant to be a voluntary choice unaffected by emotional or other pressures from elsewhere but parents who decide to continue a pregnancy where it is known that the child has a disability have reported meeting with disapproval and moral black mail (is it fair to have a child that will be a burden on the state) and feel that their pregnancy care is poorer because it is known the child has a disability.