Women are a minority view so should be disregarded

Yet another man who thinks he should tell women how they should feel...

Andy Burnham being a man with a wife and two daughters !!

'a tiny tiny number' that's ok then for even one woman to be raped?

Ooooooooooooooooo

Is that recent? Often the feminist side (my side) re circulate these things. If it is recent, just from a political standpoint alone the man is a fool.

No, I think it's from a while ago - before the ruling about sex being biological. It's been going the rounds on social media (including MN) to stir up bad feeling about him.

I don't agree with the premise, but I don't think he's saying anything like that now.

Yeah but if you talk utter nonsense then of course it will return to haunt him. I have zero sympathy I am afraid.

Oh and I have just seen his response to the Supreme court ruling, they are all so spineless, he is of course not unique in that, but it does get tiresome.

That’s one high sector of the community lost to his supporters then.
What do they have between their ears?

2022 was where my DS sent the quote from. She she lives in Manchester and was more interested in the fact that it was dismissed as something he said some time ago, rather that refuted as something he no longer believes.

Galaxy

Yeah but if you talk utter nonsense then of course it will return to haunt him. I have zero sympathy I am afraid.

True. I disagree with the stance completely, as you know, and if he's still saying it I will continue to disagree as heartily as ever.

I don't sympathise either, but nor do I see the point in bringing it up now. It makes me think 'here we go again' - let's see what we can dig up to discredit someone from Labour, even when he's fighting a by-election somewhere else.

Very few mainstream politicians came out of the Stonewall years well at all, so he's far from alone there. The stranglehold Stonewall had was pretty much total, and whilst that's not an excuse for capitulating to them, it was very difficult not to, particularly for those in the public eye.

But it is very worrying that a charity like Stonewall should get such a stranglehold on government that no one dare oppose them. Who does the government srve the people or pressure groups.

I would be more interested in his views now as this sounds like a Farage smear campaign.
A lot of people sided with the trans activists four years ago. Not saying that's right and it has made me feel differently towards Burnham but if he's changed his ideas then I won't totally condemn him.

Am sick and tired of men telling us what we should tolerate. Why can’t women be trusted on this topic, as per.

I guess if Burnham is being held to account for historical 2022 comments it would be even handed to hold Kenyon to account for historical and more upon to date comments.

Kenyon has now had his X account suspended - reasons emerging are his links to British fascist, his sharing is extremist right- wing content and egregious racism. When there were race riots he claimed white people were being "assaulted en masse" by muslims. When Kenyon stood for MP election in 2024 the anti fascist group Searchlight tweeted he was Facebook friend of Gary Raines, leader of the New British Union, reincarnation of Oswald Mosley's British Union of Fascists.

In context of Elon Musk right wing leanings and favour for TR/ Yaxley L it raises the question what must be bad enough for Kenyon's X account to be suspended....

So maybe it's just GB news, et al trying to divert attention away from CURENT concerns about Kenyon to 2022 comments from Burnham.

I’ve got no time for Burnham, on lots of levels.

Now that he’s put himself out there for the top job he will, quite rightly, be scrutinised and he’ll become ‘known’ outside Manchester.

King of the North might find his crown a little tarnished!

Just as Kenyon will be scrutinised - a case of watch the scrutiny on both….

Kenyon does not yet have a crown but to be suspended from X falls below the standard you’d expect of any politician.

Yeah, it us just I used to have a higher bar for a labour politician than well at least he is not being suspended from X.

Ah, it's an old quote.
Maybe not longer relevant?

Maremia

Ah, it's an old quote.
Maybe not longer relevant?

In which case, all he has to do is make a statement to that effect. Which I doubt he will.

It's certainly a part of a smear campaign against him. I'm seeing it all over the internet today.

The internet has form for smear frenzies.

Maremia

Ah, it's an old quote.
Maybe not longer relevant?

As I posted earlier, it’s an old quote, from 2022, but it’s just been dismissed as something he said back then, rather than refuted as something he no longer believes.
If you avoid refuting your previous views, what does that mean?