Police Probe Andrew Over Sex Offences

AMW is the offender not the late queen. We will probably never know how much she knew. She will have taken advice on how to proceed if she did know the extent of his crimes.
I'm sure she must have found this upsetting and very disappointing in a much loved son. This must have affected her badly.

Lownie! surely he told the late Queen himself

Those emails seem to have been about 'fraud' issues.
Possibly that's what they'll go for rather than the alleged sex crimes.
I am using the term 'alleged' wisely.

What I said was factual Samwam. We can’t know exactly what was said, and a warning is not necessarily the full facts. We will only find out when the official records are released.

Andrew Lownie says top diplomats warned queen what Andrew was up.

The Palace is not the Queen, it is the officials. We can’t know for sure if she was told the full story until the official records are released.

Palace given AMW trade envoy emails six years ago.

Norah

M0nica

AMW is not exactly leading the life of Reilly at the moment. banished to a rural property, and no doubt frozen out by the turnip toffs that form the Wales' Norfolk friends. He is living alone and in isolation.

He is not a man with any intellectual resources. His only interests seem to be golf and riding. He is virtually under house arrest, and likely to be so for the rest of his life. His reputation, such as he had, has been destroyed, he has been shown up to be a sleezy old man of limited intellectual capacity who has been sent to coventry by everyone including his own family.

He might actually be better off in prison with a fixed term and the chance of parole afte serving half his sentence.

You dislike old large farm homes on rural properties, not a view shared by all. We live in an old farm home, in the rural area within 50 miles of AMW. We love it here in East Anglia.

I think he is very lucky not being in prison.

Norah You misunderstand me I love old large farmhouses and rural properties. I have just moved from very old village farmhouse in country village to town for practical reasons, but have just spend 2 days back in the country and I ache for it.

I was talking about such properties in relation to AMW and the kind of person he is. He is a man devoid of inner resources. For him life means lots of social life, having easy access to big cosmopolitan cities and the entertainments they offer. That is why he enjoyed being a trade envoy, travelling the world being wind and dined and entertained to his needs. His idea of the good life is the one he had with Epstein.

Living in a rural farmhouse where the neighbours do not want to know him and nightlife means listening to owls and foxes and other little nature scrabblings, is just not his thing.

Heaven forfend that I should ever speak dismissively of old farm houses, they are my ideal home. But they are not everybody's

Probably reading the wrong thread Allsorts if you dont want to hear about AMBW 😂

I am sick of hearing about Andrew, Fergie and the Susses’s. They all live in luxury.

M0nica

AMW is not exactly leading the life of Reilly at the moment. banished to a rural property, and no doubt frozen out by the turnip toffs that form the Wales' Norfolk friends. He is living alone and in isolation.

He is not a man with any intellectual resources. His only interests seem to be golf and riding. He is virtually under house arrest, and likely to be so for the rest of his life. His reputation, such as he had, has been destroyed, he has been shown up to be a sleezy old man of limited intellectual capacity who has been sent to coventry by everyone including his own family.

He might actually be better off in prison with a fixed term and the chance of parole afte serving half his sentence.

You dislike old large farm homes on rural properties, not a view shared by all. We live in an old farm home, in the rural area within 50 miles of AMW. We love it here in East Anglia.

I think he is very lucky not being in prison.

I agree.

Ooops sight sorry

M0nica

AMW is not exactly leading the life of Reilly at the moment. banished to a rural property, and no doubt frozen out by the turnip toffs that form the Wales' Norfolk friends. He is living alone and in isolation.

He is not a man with any intellectual resources. His only interests seem to be golf and riding. He is virtually under house arrest, and likely to be so for the rest of his life. His reputation, such as he had, has been destroyed, he has been shown up to be a sleezy old man of limited intellectual capacity who has been sent to coventry by everyone including his own family.

He might actually be better off in prison with a fixed term and the chance of parole afte serving half his sentence.

He’s living a life which is a damn site nicer than many many divorced men who’ve never broken the law or been accused of assaulting women.

crazyH

I’m almost sure AMW and Fergie are in regular contact.
I wouldn’t be surprised if she has already been smuggled into his Sandringham abode . They have a few friends left …

I read that they were very much in contact still.

LemonJam

Oreo

jude2006

No judge in the land would ever find him guilty of anything, unfortunately. The police will drag the case out for as long as possible and he will not be arrested, as everyone would hope.
No-one has ever said no to him even when he was in the navy, or any of the royals for that matter, but at least the other members of the royal family are respectful, whereas he was not.

You’re right.
I don’t think anything will ever be proved against him even if his behaviour merits a court case.

If the Misconduct in Public Office charge or any other charge goes to trial it will be a jury that determines whther AMBW is guilty or innocent.

It will be a very public case and the Judge's sentence will necessarily be informed by the usual sentencing guidelines- if not there would be a public outcry internationally.

At the time of AMBW's arrest King Charles did say the law must take its course...

When the Misconduct charges were announced at first, I noticed that people were inferring that the misconduct must have been sexual, however, evidence to support any such allegations would surely hardly be conclusive, so I’d imagine that behaviour wouldn’t go before a jury.
I think he will go to trial, but his misdemeanours will be more of the financial/ abuse of his position kind, where there is a greater likelihood of evidence being available.

MissAdventure

She's probably being jolly well probed, too.

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She's probably being jolly well probed, too.

nanna8

Hate to say it but she is likely cosying up to potential friends and future sponsors. Maybe I am being cynical here, though. Not knowing her personally I can only go by what is reported and it isn’t very flattering.

I agree and for years I actually liked her (not that I knew her personally!)

Oreo

The title of this OP sounds a bit yuk 😬🤭

Mmmm use of the word “probe”

Made me feel a bit 🤮🤮

I think in context of AMBW's public arrest and now Thames Valley Police request for people to step forward with any information/evidence/concerns - criminal investigations over ride any historical or existing employment contract confidentiality agreements.

The RF would wholly castigated and reviled in the international press if such letters were sent by the RF AFTER Charle's statement that "the law must take its course". and come to light during TVP AMBW criminal investigation.

Yes Charles did say the law must take its course, however letters have been sent warning about abiding by confidentiality agreements!

Hate to say it but she is likely cosying up to potential friends and future sponsors. Maybe I am being cynical here, though. Not knowing her personally I can only go by what is reported and it isn’t very flattering.

Cardamom

I'd like to know where Fergie is in hiding at; got to be somewhere off the beaten track, with someone mega rich and willing to pay for her hedonism. Wonder if her and AMW are in close contact or if they're avoiding each other like the plague.

I thoght that it was known that she was staying at some Alpine wellness retreat.

Living in hiding with him would make her next book a best seller?