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Carol Vorderman demands apology from Reform candidate over ‘disgusting comments’ Is she right and should Kenyon apologise?

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LemonJam Tue 26-May-26 18:31:26

From the recipient's perspective: The broadcaster and former Countdown numbers expert described Robert Kenyon, who Reform has backed to face Andy Burnham in next month’s vote, as a “cowardly man” for a series of offensive posts made by the Wigan councillor that have since been deleted, along with his account. Vorderman, who last week posted a video in which she described Kenyon as a misogynist who made “disgusting comments”, told the Daily Mirror on Tuesday that she wanted “an apology from Rob Kenyon, to me, and to all the other people he’s abused online”.

In 2021, Kenyon responded to a social media post about Vorderman in which another user wrote: “My god I’d love to smell and lick your arsehole”, by saying: “He’s only saying what we’re all thinking”.

Vorderman dismissed Danny Kruger’s public response (that Kenyon is an 'ordinary man' and they were private comments) , saying that being an “ordinary man” was no excuse and the fact that Kenyon’s posts were made publicly meant they should be considered as online abuse. “I’m 65, I grew up in north Wales in abject poverty, I spent half of my life living in the north, whether it was Leeds, or Manchester, or that strip of north Wales,” said Vorderman. “And he says Kenyon is just an ordinary man saying ordinary things. No, I’m sorry, Kenyon isn’t an ordinary man. He’s a cowardly man, which is why he deleted one of his social media accounts. “They are public comments on a public platform and if Danny Kruger thinks online abuse is OK then Reform are therefore stating online abuse against women is OK, then all women in Makerfield need to know that.”

Kandinsky Wed 27-May-26 11:42:55

I can only imagine how vile it must be to be the subject of these vile comments and to have them discussed on social media and in the media

Well exactly!
So why keep doing it?

Maremia Wed 27-May-26 11:58:03

What? Just give into misogyny?

LemonJam Wed 27-May-26 12:36:47

It's dangerous to give into a man like Kenyon. He SM posts are perversive and persuasive. Even his anti immigrant posts, designed to stir up emotions and protest, since entering politics circle back round to abuse against women.

Kenyon is a dangerous man. Apart from his online misogyny- 419 of his archived posts reveal he campaigned as Reform UK’s candidate during the 2024 GE almost exclusively on alarmist claims about immigration and invasion. After he lost the Makerfield MP election, Kenyon began highlighting concerns about asylum seeker hostels and spreading false claims about their involvement in local crimes.

By the Summer 2024 riots a few weeks later, which started after the murder of 3 children in Southport, 20 miles away, Kenyon started seeding cover up narratives, directing racialised claims at the Home Office and using the deaths of the children as a recruitment pitch for the riots.

As the riots spread across England, mobs attacking mosques, burning hotels, clashing with police in a dozen cities, Kenyon became part of a national disinformation network amplifying Elon Musk and other far right influencers claiming that minority communities get more lenient policing.

Then "look at the people he was contacting to recruit to the riots" and how a significant proportion of them treat women. One out of every five people arrested after their participation in the 2024 summer riots has since been reported to the police for domestic abuse. Police data released under freedom of information (FoI) laws shows that 21% of 949 people arrested for taking part in the violent disorder have been reported for crimes associated with intimate partner violence since August 2024. For individuals arrested by Cumbria police, this figure was as high as 54%. Offences for which alleged rioters have since been reported include common assault, controlling and coercive behaviour, breach of domestic violence protection notice and injunctions, threats to kill, actual bodily harm, and criminal damage.

Two out of every five arrested for participating in the riots had been the subject of a domestic abuse report before their involvement in the 2024 public disorder.

Calls to protect women and children alongside anti-migrant rhetoric have been a common feature of these rallies "yet those participating in the rallies have been reported for crimes associated with inmate violence, before and after the riots*.

LemonJam Wed 27-May-26 12:38:17

Kenyon is a RECRUITER.

foxie48 Wed 27-May-26 12:39:55

Kandinsky

*I can only imagine how vile it must be to be the subject of these vile comments and to have them discussed on social media and in the media*

Well exactly!
So why keep doing it?

Because brave women who are prepared to call it out need to be supported and people need to know what comments Kenyon made.

LemonJam Wed 27-May-26 13:15:43

Kandinsky

Well then that kind of weakens her argument doesn’t it. She wants an apology for something that’s offended her / women in general, yet is happy for the offensive comments to be reposted?

Very odd.

Kind of weaken's Carole Vorderman's argument - in what way?

Carole Vorderman does not need your permission to argue her case, whatever you mean by that. She does not need to argue for her right of reply to Kenyon. CV does not need to argue for permission to do what's right for her- that is her unalienable right of response.

Pelicot said keeping silent is like a double punishment for the victims and is suffering we impose upon ourselves. Worm dont need to suffer in silent, in shame when on the reaching end of men's misogyny anymore.

Pelicot never regretted her decision to waive her anonymity and expose the horrors visited upon her by her husband and those many other men. Finding out what happened she described was like feeling a tsunami inside herself. Letting the world know what happened was like releasing that. She was immensely brave; the world took notice and much good and understanding has come from her decision. We've seen such bravery repeated in the past few days by the young woman coming forward on LK show on Sunday about her rape and online grooming.

LemonJam Wed 27-May-26 13:17:47

I'm not comparing the extent of Pelicot's abuse to that of CV- but the principle remains the same- it is the right of the woman to respond, and to respond in the best way for her. Tp be public is brave and paves the way for some good to come out of the incident.

Kandinsky Wed 27-May-26 13:20:28

Absolutely - but it’s not CV who’s reposting the comments, it’s you.

Maremia Wed 27-May-26 13:21:28

And the problem is?

Kandinsky Wed 27-May-26 13:24:52

The problem is, how do you know CV is happy with people reposting the offensive comments?
If she’s said somewhere online or wherever that she is happy then fair enough.

twaddle Wed 27-May-26 13:29:29

Kandinsky

Absolutely - but it’s not CV who’s reposting the comments, it’s you.

I really don't understand your problem, Kandinsky. Do you think if issues are brushed under the carpet, they'll disappear?

That comment was made about CV. Kenyon "liked" it and added his own comment. That is a fact.

Kenyon is now standing in an election to be an MP. Everybody eligible for a vote in that constituency needs to know what kind of values he has. They can't know that unless they see first hand what he wrote - not some second comment about and abusive post (or whatever). CV is allowing people to publicise the actual words, so they can make up their own minds. If they're shocked by the words, they will hopefully do the right thing and not vote for him to be their MP.

twaddle Wed 27-May-26 13:30:27

Kandinsky

The problem is, how do you know CV is happy with people reposting the offensive comments?
If she’s said somewhere online or wherever that she is happy then fair enough.

CV is a grown up and isn't afraid of speaking her mind. I think we'd know by now if she were unhappy to have the words repeated.

Cossy Wed 27-May-26 13:46:15

Kandinsky

*I can only imagine how vile it must be to be the subject of these vile comments and to have them discussed on social media and in the media*

Well exactly!
So why keep doing it?

Would you rather just ignore them or make sure every woman in the UK is aware of this potential MP’s thought processes? 🤷🏻‍♀️

Maremia Wed 27-May-26 13:48:09

Ah, you were being considerate of CV?

Cossy Wed 27-May-26 13:48:24

Maremia

What? Just give into misogyny?

Never 👊

twaddle Wed 27-May-26 13:51:02

Ah well! At least these posters who don't think the words should be repeated, do at least agree that the words are offensive and vile. It would be interesting to know their opinion of the election candidate who "liked" and endorsed them.

Kandinsky Wed 27-May-26 13:58:57

My opinion of him is the same as yours.
I think he’s revolting.
But my concern is, reposting his comments are more about him than they are about saving CV further distress.
But you seem to think she isn’t bothered so I’ll leave you to it.

twaddle Wed 27-May-26 14:18:36

Kandinsky

My opinion of him is the same as yours.
I think he’s revolting.
But my concern is, reposting his comments are more about him than they are about saving CV further distress.
But you seem to think she isn’t bothered so I’ll leave you to it.

I haven't read anything about CV wanting the words banned.

She needs to take out an injunction of she's that bothered. Otherwise we end up with people telling stories about CV being bothered by a few "hurty words".

I'm sure she'd be touched to know that you're so bothered about her welfare, Kandinsky.

Wyllow3 Wed 27-May-26 14:24:49

She is a full grown woman, not a child, Kandinsky.

all you had to do all along was actually google what her reaction has been and you appear not to have bothered?

I just have as follows

"What is Carol V's reaction to the Kenyon revelations"

The Answer:

Overview

Carol Vorderman’s reaction to the revelations about Reform UK's Makerfield by-election candidate, Robert Kenyon, has been one of intense condemnation and demands for accountability.

Demand for an Apology:

She publicly demanded a direct apology from Kenyon to her and all others he has abused.

Misogyny Claims: She branded Kenyon a "cowardly man" and a "misogynist", adding that his online behavior was a "torrent of abusive and vile language".

Criticism of Reform UK: She strongly challenged the party and its figures, such as MP Danny Kruger—who attempted to downplay Kenyon's online actions as "inappropriate" but private. Vorderman countered that if the party condoned this behavior, they were "stating online abuse against women is OK".

These can be cross checked
www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/26/carol-vorderman-demands-apology-reform-candidate-robert-kenyon

suelld Wed 27-May-26 14:27:22

eazybee

If you had bothered to read my post properly, Cossy, you would have noticed that I suggested the offensive comment was removed, not the post, No useful purpose in repeating it.

And your stupid comment, Maybee, asking why I want to protect this man. Grow up.

Totally disagree… I had also wondered what the ‘offensive post’ everyone was discussing was…I’m glad Lemonjam posted it.
I agree too with the poster who said how can you be incensed at the words, rather than at the original person who posted them? Methinks you have your priorities in a twist.
Over prudish and wrong.

suelld Wed 27-May-26 14:33:55

eazybee

I found the comment LemonJam chose to repeat quite disgusting and wondered at the desire to print it. After I had unravelled the convoluted opening sentence and established who the Countdown presenters and Wigan Councillors were I gather that the purpose is to attack Reform, using the increasingly embarrassing Vorderman as ammunition

Up to you, but I would ask for the offensive comment to be removed.

Also Reform need to be ‘attacked’ as this man seems to be the type of candidate Reform are pushing. Just a sample in case you are ever tempted to join! 🙏 Tho from your vehement post I would assume maybe you are one of Reform’s voters. Far too many people are taking the word Reform to mean the party means that… they don’t they are mostly Trump Lite !

Daniel Devaney topped the poll in his Bradford ward despite a post in which he described Muslims as 'pure scum'. He told his local paper: "I said it while I was in a bad mood and watching TV. It was on and I just let off steam" Local councillors accused of racism faced calls to resign within hours of being elected for Reform.

STUART PRIOR who allegedly called WHITE people "the master race" in online posts, won county and district council seats in Essex. Reform has ended the Tory party's quarter of a century control of Essex county council, with Prior, 54, among those elected. He also won a Rochford district council seat. Reform said last week it was "looking into" Prior's posts.

JAY LESLIE COOPER, who won a seat in the Bootle West ward of Sefton council, allegedly wrote on Facebook last year regarding Adolf Hitler, “I don’t agree with him murdering innocent people. But the Hallocaust [sic] is a hoax. There wasn’t [sic] even 6 million Jews in Europe at the time. Propaganda.” Reform told the Liverpool Echo that Cooper was 'under investigation' but he ran and was elected.

Another councillor, GLENN GIBBINS, elected to represent Hylton Castle ward on Sunderland City Council, has been suspended from the party pending an investigation. In a post, he was alleged to have written that 'carnt (sic) believe amoung to Nigerians in the town...should melt them all down and fill in the potholes'. He has also been accused of misogyny in earlier posts.

DAVID LAING 67, also emerged victorious in Sunderland as the party ended Labour’s over 50-year city reign. He claimed that he 'could not remember' if he stood twice for the British National Party in nearby Washington, in 2006 and 2007. ( BNP = A FAR RIGHT FASCIST PARTY ).

Wyllow3 Wed 27-May-26 14:36:32

They are crawling out of the woodwork aren't they.

spabbygirl Wed 27-May-26 14:57:10

Chocolatelovinggran

He's a vile misogynist. Any attempt to defend his words is beyond contempt.

he is indeed. Farage/Reform are just the polite version of Alf Garnet, they have allowed all the closet racists/misogynists to make their views public.

I don't want any of them as MP's but I see we're stuck with a few.

Estrellita Wed 27-May-26 15:00:38

He is disgusting.

Elbelle Wed 27-May-26 15:18:20

I know a number of so called 'ordinary' men who respect women and would never post such crude comments regarding Vorderman or any other female or man. 'Ordinary ' men should revolt at being likened to Kenyon.
I was also horrified and saddened by comments posted in The Telegraph in response to their article about Vorderman's request for an apology. The vast majority were pro Kenyon. Even the women. What are we
coming to!? Was the fight to cease to be objectified and seen as sex objects (demise of page 3 top less women) and the struggle to gain equal pay for equal work all wasted?