Henry Nowak…….an absolute tragedy.

Was it planned?
A charge of mutder suggests it was.
Does anyone know what the motive was?

I’m still avoiding the news etc so apologies if I’ve got this wrong but am I right in thinking that Henry’s father specifically requested that this should not be used to stir up racial hatred and yet Farage, who’s been lying low recently was given an emergency news conference on tv this morning. To stir up racial hatred….

He did Maybee, scenes in Southampton now, Tommy Robinson speaking, missiles being thrown at the police. We live a few miles away.

Sikhs are permitted in this country to wear a small ceremonial Kirpan a knife around their neck next to there skin. Their allowed larger sword types in their homes. They are allowed to wear the knife whilst on an aircraft or keep it in their holdall. A larger sword must be kept in the hold. The USA has banned these items and many Scandinavian countries do not allow Sikhs to carry or wear them in Sweden, Finland and Denmark. I can't say that I knew this...it doesn't sit easy with me or the taking of them on aircrafts. The police on the video cam appear to have been negligent. It didn't appear to cross their minds that a young man, who had been accused of racism, was the one laying on the floor saying he couldn't breathe and he had been stabbed. A male officer handcuffed him and said no you haven't. A female officer appeared to listen when Henry Novak said he'd been stabbed and she said , where on your face, the male officer said no he hasn't. She at least said well we still need to look. She looked at Henry's face briefly. Because she didn't get support from the male officer she gave up. He died minutes later. You'd think that surely they would have thought why is this young man laying on the ground, difficulty speaking and breathless, it beggars belief. They asked the Sikh man who was upright and talking if he was hurt and he lied and said yes around my eye. On the video cam there didn't appear to be any injury. The murdered mother apparently took the large knife away before the police arrived. She and her other son appeared in court today I believe. I've never particularly heard that Sikhs are violent but I do question in today's climate of racial tensions and in a country that claims knives should not be carried by anyone, whether Sikhs should be legally allowed to carry these knives. I'd rather they didn't even if they argue they are purely ceremonial.

Plevey your post repeats what has been said numerous times, what we should be focusing on, imo, is what happens next. As stated above and contrary to the wishes of Henry’s family, the racial fires have been stoked.
Our police still have to get on and do their jobs, in Southampton now, at one station, this is proving difficult to say the least.
The IOPC are investigating the involvement of the police at the murder scene, their report will be issued, then we can comment further.
The court case involving the wider Dikwa family was deferred today until next month when the mother is separately due to be sentenced for removing the knife.
Those two statements are fact, not conjecture.

I think starmer is just as guilty of stoking up racial issues as the likes of farage or robinson.

It is identity politics that have stirred the flames of racial division. Was it wrong to politicise the murder of george floyd but not this death, again I have no idea what people thought would happen.

MissAdventure

I think starmer is just as guilty of stoking up racial issues as the likes of farage or robinson.

I agree.

There is a photo circulating of the murderer, Dikwa at work with colleagues. He is wearing a very large knife in a sheaf clearly visible over his clothes. How can that be considered acceptable? What would happen if anybody else turned up with a large bladed weapon slung over their shoulder?

Jaxjacky I will choose what to comment on thank you. It is factual from the video cam. I also gave a broader opinion on my views regarding knives. My post wasn't inflammatory or inciting racial tensions, far from it. But yes I as many are mortified by the lack of any concern as to the young lad laying virtually lifeless on the ground. And I don't think anyone should be carrying knives. Your opinion appears to be in defence of the police at the scene mine is questioning it. Of course there will be an inquiry. I only hope many lessons will be learnt from it. We are allowed opinions that's what makes us human.

Has been revealed that the murderer stole £1,000 worth of knives from the Sikh Temple a few years ago and the Police did nothing.

Primrose53

Has been revealed that the murderer stole £1,000 worth of knives from the Sikh Temple a few years ago and the Police did nothing.

Sounds about right with things as they are today.The police are now terrified of being called racists above all else.

MayBee70

I’m still avoiding the news etc so apologies if I’ve got this wrong but am I right in thinking that Henry’s father specifically requested that this should not be used to stir up racial hatred and yet Farage, who’s been lying low recently was given an emergency news conference on tv this morning. To stir up racial hatred….

You're absolutely right Maybee70.

MissAdventure

I think starmer is just as guilty of stoking up racial issues as the likes of farage or robinson.

I agree and, in my opinion, has done so since walking into No. 10

The murderer's family has requested time to come to terms with what they are going to be facing.

The murderer’s family? Whatever it is they’re facing, it’s but a flea bite compared to Henry Nowak’s family.

Spinnaker

MissAdventure

I think starmer is just as guilty of stoking up racial issues as the likes of farage or robinson.

I agree and, in my opinion, has done so since walking into No. 10

I'm afraid I don't see it. Please could you explain what you mean? Thanks.

Jaxjacky

He did Maybee, scenes in Southampton now, Tommy Robinson speaking, missiles being thrown at the police. We live a few miles away.

What a scumbag to exploit an incident such as this. It's Southport all over again.

MissAdventure

Was it planned?
A charge of mutder suggests it was.
Does anyone know what the motive was?

The Sentencing remarks come as close as anything I've read to a motive:

www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/Digwa-Final-Sentencing-Remarks.pdf

Sympathy should be with the victim’s family and not the perpetrator. Starmer is a shocker, no idea. He stokes anger without having a clue. Even though I couldn’t stand him, Blair was a much, much better PM who knew how to relate to the populace.

I don't understand the 'it's Starmer's fault' comments.
From what I see, it's Farage who is attempting to stir up 'rage'.

I couldn't watch it last night. I was so upset i couldn't settle, how have we come to this? Why did no one help that boy. Those officers did they even look at him?
If the theft if those knives were not investigated, why not?
Starmer said nothing wrong but he and successive governments have bought us to this
All my sympathies to the victims family.
This is the start of the beginning of major changes and attitudes.

This is the final straw for Labour and Starmer. They’re finished.

Badenoch told BBC Newsnight on Tuesday that when Keir Starmer was leader of the opposition he took the knee, a symbolic gesture against racism, following Floyd's death
They were taking the knee for something that happened in another country", she said
I want them to take as seriously what is happening in this country, what they did with George Floyd

Exactly. But they never will.

What i mean, twaddle, is that Starmers silence up until now has spoken volumes, without saying a word.
It leaves room for people like Farage to step up to the plate, and address how people ate feeling.
Nobody has said "all brown people are bad, not one word about the sikh community (apart from the observation that they are peaceful people in the main)
Just adressing the fact that reactions have been far from immediate, far from respectful, far from open, and far from satisfactory.

Surely Starmer held off from speaking until the judge had been heard first and sentence passed?

MissAdventure

What i mean, twaddle, is that Starmers silence up until now has spoken volumes, without saying a word.
It leaves room for people like Farage to step up to the plate, and address how people ate feeling.
Nobody has said "all brown people are bad, not one word about the sikh community (apart from the observation that they are peaceful people in the main)
Just adressing the fact that reactions have been far from immediate, far from respectful, far from open, and far from satisfactory.

You mean this sort of silence?
"Starmer said in a TV interview at Downing Street: “Nigel Farage is completely wrong to use this to try and create division. He would be wrong in any circumstances, but when Henry’s family are saying, ‘Please don’t do that, it’s our son’, then really, as politicians, as human beings, we should start where they start.”
Sounds good to me.