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Henry Nowak…….an absolute tragedy.

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Sago Fri 29-May-26 08:41:07

How has the tragic case of this young man not caused outrage?

Imagine if he had been a person of colour or ethnic minority.

The Police handling of this case raises serious questions.

The killer behaved appallingly, lying to Police and then getting his family to hide weapons and cover for him.

It’s also astonishing to learn Sikhs can carry these knives in public because they are “ religious regalia”

For anyone that isn’t aware of this tragedy here is a link.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c70vy0kknj4o

Maremia Wed 03-Jun-26 07:49:46

What sort of politician calls for 'rage'?

MissAdventure Wed 03-Jun-26 07:55:02

Yes, the kind of silence that's only broken because someone else has pointed it out.
Very quick to take the knee for Floyd - before the trial, and release the picture to social media.

Personally, i feel rage without any input from farage.

Galaxy Wed 03-Jun-26 08:00:29

Farage isnt the first person to politicise a murder, again what did people think was going to happen.

MayBee70 Wed 03-Jun-26 08:01:30

Mamie

MissAdventure

What i mean, twaddle, is that Starmers silence up until now has spoken volumes, without saying a word.
It leaves room for people like Farage to step up to the plate, and address how people ate feeling.
Nobody has said "all brown people are bad, not one word about the sikh community (apart from the observation that they are peaceful people in the main)
Just adressing the fact that reactions have been far from immediate, far from respectful, far from open, and far from satisfactory.

You mean this sort of silence?
"Starmer said in a TV interview at Downing Street: “Nigel Farage is completely wrong to use this to try and create division. He would be wrong in any circumstances, but when Henry’s family are saying, ‘Please don’t do that, it’s our son’, then really, as politicians, as human beings, we should start where they start.”
Sounds good to me.

Precisely. I’m totally bemused by some of the comments on this thread confused.

AGAA4 Wed 03-Jun-26 08:02:38

All my anger is directed at the man who stabbed Henry to death and the family who aided him. I don't think anger directed at Starmer is justified here. It just diffuses the justified anger at the murderer.

Luckygirl3 Wed 03-Jun-26 08:04:47

Starmer is a lawyer. He knows not to comment in a way that might influence the case.

Galaxy Wed 03-Jun-26 08:04:53

I think there are many cases where anger is directed in a number of directions, this has never been a problem before, why is it an issue now.

Mamie Wed 03-Jun-26 08:06:00

If people take the trouble to Google "Starmer's comments on Henry Nowak's Death", you will find reports from multiple sources of plenty of comments. Even one reported by the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

MissAdventure Wed 03-Jun-26 08:15:24

Do you think that people who are champing at the bit, looking for trouble are going to do that?

Sago Wed 03-Jun-26 08:17:05

AGAA4

All my anger is directed at the man who stabbed Henry to death and the family who aided him. I don't think anger directed at Starmer is justified here. It just diffuses the justified anger at the murderer.

What about the Police who allowed him to die?
Any anger for them?

AGAA4 Wed 03-Jun-26 08:25:20

Sago my feeling towards the police is huge contempt for not 'seeing' the situation and only listening to the man who was lying and ignoring a dying man.

Sunshinegirls Wed 03-Jun-26 08:26:11

I'm more than angry with the policeman who when Henry said he had been stabbed said "I don't think you have mate" I personally think he should face charges.

Kandinsky Wed 03-Jun-26 08:26:40

My anger is with the police who immediately jumped to conclusions and treated a young boy in his dying moments appallingly.
They should be prosecuted like the police in the George Floyd case.
Murders ( sadly ) happen every day. All colours killing all colours, the issue here is how the police responded 😡

Galaxy Wed 03-Jun-26 08:29:36

It will also be beyond the individual officers, it will be guidance, culture, etc.

MissAdventure Wed 03-Jun-26 08:31:20

Yes, it's very conplex.

Mamie Wed 03-Jun-26 08:35:41

MissAdventure

Do you think that people who are champing at the bit, looking for trouble are going to do that?

"The meme and the claim that Prime Minister Keir Starmer remained silent on Henry Nowak's death stem from GB News and political figures on the right, including Reform UK's Nigel Farage and Robert Jenrick. They circulated the narrative to accuse Starmer of a "double standard" compared to his past responses to racial injustice.The criticism primarily spread across social media platforms like Instagram and Facebook, where hard-right accounts paired photos of the handcuffed, dying teenager with side-by-side images of Starmer previously taking the knee for George Floyd. This created a viral talking point accusing the PM of ignoring the plight of a British citizen."

I wondered where all the George Floyd stuff had come from.
It is sad to see people so easily taken in by that.
It seems people had made time to look at GB News, Instagram and Facebook.

Keir Starmer actually commented back in December when Henry Nowak was killed.

Galaxy Wed 03-Jun-26 08:39:43

You mean in the way people were taken in by the George Floyd protests, ( and any 'progressive' chant that people follow blindly) those people who take the time to read the Guardian, etc.

MissAdventure Wed 03-Jun-26 08:41:34

I can't find any comments from starmer before the last couple of days.
I certainly don't have to be taken in by either him, farage, or robinson.
I think it is bad form for the country's leader, who supposedly represents us, to remain silent up until now.

MissAdventure Wed 03-Jun-26 08:43:52

I watched Rees-Mogg's take on tge situation, and I loathe that man, but i agreed with his points entirely.
Is he a racist thug?

Boz Wed 03-Jun-26 08:49:26

Labour are reluctant to overly criticise ethic minorities as they represent their vote. Always the vote with politicians.

Sunshinegirls Wed 03-Jun-26 08:52:35

Surely if someone says they have been stabbed (victim or not) any normal person/police officer would check if they had been, not handcuff them and read them their rights.

MissAdventure Wed 03-Jun-26 08:54:21

It's basic first aid- go to the person who is quiet as a priority.

Maremia Wed 03-Jun-26 08:55:00

Thank you Mamie for sharing the fact that Starmer DID comment on this tragedy, back in December.

MissAdventure Wed 03-Jun-26 08:57:58

This is what AI says.

Prime Minister Keir Starmer did not make any statements in December regarding the murder of 18-year-old student Henry Nowak. Because the killing was subject to an active criminal trial, Starmer did not release an official statement until early June 2026,

V3ra Wed 03-Jun-26 08:58:34

The Sentencing remarks come as close as anything I've read to a motive:

www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2026/06/Digwa-Final-Sentencing-Remarks.pdf

Thank you twaddle for posting this link.
It's a very good, measured summing up by the judge and I'd recommend reading it.
Lots of details I didn't know before.

Such a tragedy for Henry and his family and friends.