Where’s Nigel?

Goodness me Chestnut but there are so many loud left wing voices they just keep shouting them down at every opportunity.

If you believe Farage cant stand or cope with left wing voices and is too fragile what's he doing in politics?!

Farage uses his far right wing loud voice as often as he likes and amplifies it as often as he can in his chosen right wing media outlets and on GB news- for handsome £ sums. He needs to get a grip and stop playing the victim card! 😂

"Are we going to accept this undemocratic attempt to plonk this unknown person who has never been a MP, into such an important and challenging position.?" Ronib

AB was the MP for Leigh from 2201 -2017 and Mayor of Greater Manchester from 2017-2026

He has been secretary of state for Health, Secretary of state for Culture, media and Sport, Chief secretary of the Treasury and Minister of state for Health (responsible for Delivery and Quality) and was a parliamentary under secretary at the Home office. He's also held a number of shadow positions.

I hope so.

Perhaps Ronib's aim is to deflect from the OP about the shortcomings of Farage?

If so Ronib, now knows now how much more political experience AB has than other prospective or actual party leaders, including Farage. AB is more skilled, less divisive and much more able and suitable to be PM (if he becomes PM) than Farage will ever be.

The proof of the pudding …..

I agree ronib- Need if and when Farage starts to get more active as Clacton's MP and if and when Farage begins to participate more at Westminster we will see if he actually is willing to put the effort in to be an effective MP and party leader.

Burnham is not the Messiah, he's just a naughty boy and he hasn't got a plan. I remember everyone here getting very excited when Starmer won the election. And here we are again. I said then as I say now that these people will not save us.

LemonJam

Chestnut

LemonJam Farage said "Ive been physically more attacked over many years than any other politician. Just so disrespectful to other MPs that have been murdered.

Oh wow, so you would prefer that he was murdered too? If he has been attacked that many times then he has every right to protect himself. He has clearly stated that the money is for his personal security because he will need protecting for the rest of his life.

I stand by my comment that Farage's exaggerated comment yesterday that he has been physically attacked over many years than any other politician is incorrect, as others have been murdered and is disrespectful to those politicians that have suffered serious harm and lost their lives.

He stated as early as yesterday the £5million was given as a gift that could be spent on anything he wanted- a Ferrari or even betting.

Farage has the same access to a security risk assessment and provision of state security as a result of that risk assessment as any other MP. Evidence of his "attacks" forms part of that security assessment. Why he should feel he is a special case than any other MP or politician and should be treated any differently is a mystery to me.

The only physical 'attacks' we know that Farage has suffered have been two episodes of milk shake, an egg and being hit by a placard (though we have no idea how hard). The food ones aren't even vaguely life threatening. Other politicians have had similar but don't make so much fuss about it and haven't needed a kind friend to give them £5million for personal protection.

Just how gullible does he think we all are?

MaizieD

Meandrogrog

MaizieD

ronib

Farage is a man on a mission. He wants Brexit to be done properly and he is determined to see it through. Unlike May and Johnson. Must have been a bit galling for Farage to have enabled a Johnson victory for what exactly?

As after 10 years of Brexit (well, 6 years of the actual divorce) voters seem to be more interested in returning to the EU than getting 'Brexit done properly' (whatever that vacuous phrase may mean) I think Farage is on a loser with his 'mission'.

The Government Brexit minister has apparently advised against trying to rejoin.

That's because it's current government policy. What else would you expect them to say?

Honesty, whether its current policy or not.

Chestnut

Burnham is not the Messiah, he's just a naughty boy and he hasn't got a plan. I remember everyone here getting very excited when Starmer won the election. And here we are again. I said then as I say now that these people will not save us.

Spot on, not only will they not save us, it is all going to get considerably worse. Its just despicable that Reeves is now going to tax money in ISA (not cash ISA) to stop people trying to shield money from tax. We all should be able to have some tax free savings. Despicable, dreadful people.

Chestnut

LemonJam Farage said "Ive been physically more attacked over many years than any other politician. Just so disrespectful to other MPs that have been murdered.

Oh wow, so you would prefer that he was murdered too? If he has been attacked that many times then he has every right to protect himself. He has clearly stated that the money is for his personal security because he will need protecting for the rest of his life.

Why is it disrespectful? He is a politician that inspires strong feelings and there are a lot of nutcases around!

Chestnut

Burnham is not the Messiah, he's just a naughty boy and he hasn't got a plan. I remember everyone here getting very excited when Starmer won the election. And here we are again. I said then as I say now that these people will not save us.

I don’t think anybody has claimed that Burnham is the Messiah, they would be pretty dumb if they had. However, your crystal ball is no more accurate than anybody else’s, either. We are in uncharted territory.

Still trying to deflect from Nigel Farage - the topic of this post...

AB is not the PM yet! Hence why he does not need to have a PM plan yet 😂

AB was sworn in as MP on Monday and we can expect to hear more from him as a contender in due course, I would guess from next week onwards.

AB has never called himself a "messiah" a (freudian?) slip from a Tory MP the DM picked up on. The Telegraph have called AB " a naughty boy". as a reason why the LP likes him. If thats the worst the DM and Telegraph can throw at AB this week we can sleep easy at night 😴. Farage is attracting worse headlines, in my view a dreadful and corrupt man.

Certainly Farge is nowhere near being a contender for a PM role like AB and that must sting. Farage is nowhere near "saving us", nowhere near making anything better- he can only pipe dream for the next three years.

On the matter of tax free ISA savings you appear not to be aware of the fine detail of April 2027 changes- or just not outlined maybe. There is a separate post with explanatory detail. You can rest assured you certainly can continue to have some tax free savings.

Having said that, Burnham’s territory has a degree of familiarity in that we know he won’t deviate too far from what the government is already doing. It would be like Mars in comparison if Reform were elected.

Meandrogrog

Chestnut

LemonJam Farage said "Ive been physically more attacked over many years than any other politician. Just so disrespectful to other MPs that have been murdered.

Oh wow, so you would prefer that he was murdered too? If he has been attacked that many times then he has every right to protect himself. He has clearly stated that the money is for his personal security because he will need protecting for the rest of his life.

Why is it disrespectful? He is a politician that inspires strong feelings and there are a lot of nutcases around!

All politicians face the wrath and risks of any nut cases around- Farage faces the same risks as other politicians and nobody, including him has produced any factual evidence to support his erroneous claim that he has been more physically attacked than any other politician.

Farage has never been seriously physically harmed in all his years of politics. I believe it was disrespectful to the families of politicians that have been seriously harmed or murdered for Farage to claim he has been physically attacked more than any other politician. You may feel Farage was being respectful to those families that have experienced the death of their politician family member - I don't- so be it.

It is Chestnut that has claimed I would prefer that Farage was murdered- I will leave Chestnut to explain why she stated that.

LemonJam, your comment seemed to imply that Farage also had to be murdered before he could complain about being physically attacked. Well of course by then it would be too late.

Incidentally, throwing milk shake can be counted as dangerous because it could be acid that was thrown.

An unusual implication you drew from my clear post Chestnut but so be it. He didn't just say he had been physically attacked he said he had been more physically attacked than any other politician when other politicians have been murdered or seriously harmed.

Farage had a milk shake thrown at him that public knowledge- he was not seriously harmed. He's not the first politician to have something thrown at him and won't be the last. The woman was prosecuted.

Why he thinks he's at risk in a bigger way than any other politician remains a mystery to me.

It all adds to the drama.

If he has had threats sent to him, then that's a matter for the Police, and not some foreign based crypto currency doner.

foxie48

"Are we going to accept this undemocratic attempt to plonk this unknown person who has never been a MP, into such an important and challenging position.?" Ronib

AB was the MP for Leigh from 2201 -2017 and Mayor of Greater Manchester from 2017-2026

He has been secretary of state for Health, Secretary of state for Culture, media and Sport, Chief secretary of the Treasury and Minister of state for Health (responsible for Delivery and Quality) and was a parliamentary under secretary at the Home office. He's also held a number of shadow positions.

Indeed he has and is actually a more experienced politician than Starmer.

Indeed possibly other MPs on all sides of the house and particularly Farage, who has never served in any party’s cabinet.

The security excuse is exactly that, an excuse. Farage exposed himself yesterday. He clearly admitted yesterday he can spend it on anything he wants and clearly said it's no one's business what he spends it on......

Any reasonable person would infer that giving Farage a £5million gift to spend however he likes is buying favour...

The issue is that Farage did not declare his gift when he became an MP- he wanted to keep it a secret All the more reason to worry...

LemonJam

An unusual implication you drew from my clear post Chestnut but so be it. He didn't just say he had been physically attacked he said he had been more physically attacked than any other politician when other politicians have been murdered or seriously harmed.

Farage had a milk shake thrown at him that public knowledge- he was not seriously harmed. He's not the first politician to have something thrown at him and won't be the last. The woman was prosecuted.

Why he thinks he's at risk in a bigger way than any other politician remains a mystery to me.

Actually, he’s had two milkshakes, in floppy cardboard containers, I just don’t know how he’s survived these terrible assaults!

Then of course, there’s the mystery house bombing, that may or may not have taken place!

LemonJam

The security excuse is exactly that, an excuse. Farage exposed himself yesterday. He clearly admitted yesterday he can spend it on anything he wants and clearly said it's no one's business what he spends it on......

Any reasonable person would infer that giving Farage a £5million gift to spend however he likes is buying favour...

The issue is that Farage did not declare his gift when he became an MP- he wanted to keep it a secret All the more reason to worry...

The rules are also quite clear.

All and any gifts in the 12 months leading up to an MP must be declared!

That applies to all and any MPs, except Mr Farage appears to think, him!

If he genuinely wishes to be taken seriously then shouldn't he attempt to follow correct procedures?

LemonJam

The security excuse is exactly that, an excuse. Farage exposed himself yesterday. He clearly admitted yesterday he can spend it on anything he wants and clearly said it's no one's business what he spends it on......

Any reasonable person would infer that giving Farage a £5million gift to spend however he likes is buying favour...

The issue is that Farage did not declare his gift when he became an MP- he wanted to keep it a secret All the more reason to worry...

I really do not think its an excuse, it only takes one attack to kill or seriously maim in some way ie acid in the face, then its too late. He does need to protect himself in this increasingly violent society.