Govt announces Ukrainian style scheme to bring thousands more migrants to UK

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No, it varies according to area as to the % - over all about 50%.

How about reading this GN's? its a good summary of why we need to take Eritreans, what the persecution actually is.

www.opendoors.org/en-US/persecution/countries/eritrea/

Wow! That was clever DAR.
Yes, it does help. 👏 👏

I think it is one of the most unpleasant posts I have seen.

Primrose53

I believe mainly from Eritrea and Sudan.

Be interesting to see how many migrant supporters on here offer to take them into their homes!

If it’s the same as Ukrainian scheme you will get paid about £380 a month.

Getting ready for the usual excuses - haven’t got a spare room, can’t afford it, I live in a flat, I am too old, my second cousin twice removed lives with me etc etc. 🤣

Many many people took up the Ukrainian scheme and hosted.

However, whether you like it or not Primrose, those offering do have to be a situation that fits having someone living with them,, that means the space, the right areas, the will and the want.

You have zero idea about how people on here might already have hosted someone, who might have funded charities supporting refugees, might actually volunteer with refugees.

The likelyhood of many pensioners coming forward, particularly those on low incomes, with their own health and financial issues, is likely to be low.

I think you’re being pretty unfair to those of us who do support the rights of Asylum Seekers to make claims here.

CatsWhiskas

LemonJam

Ukrainians are white. There are people that do not judge or rank asylum seekers/ refugees from war torn areas by the colour of their skin. Sudan and adjacent Eritrea many are aware is the most war torn area. I still suspect organisations and individuals will come forward for none white Sudan and Eritrean refugees in this scheme.

Goodness me! I'd never thought of that! Eritreans might be black, but at least the majority of them are Christian.

So….will anyone on this thread accept payment for taking in refugees from Sudan, Eritrea ?
I have been honest and so has FGT in saying why we won’t so lets hear from the rest of the supporters of this initiative ?

mumofmadboys

I can only talk about my own experience. We have had two Ukranian families living with us . The first family of 4 came in 2022 and stayed 8 months. Now live in a rented house nearby, both parents work FT, the two children are well settled at school. We see them regulsrly - we babysit for them, help out in school holidays and share meals together on occasions.
Our second family came this year - a mum and daughter. The mum is working 22 hours a week and the 9 year old is well settled in school. They hope to move on when possible.
Both experiences have been enriching and we are so glad we have done it. It has been hard work but so very worthwhile.

Well done. I have the utmost respect for you and your family!

I think some of you on this thread are actually, either intentionally or unintentionally confrontation and giddy and therefore I simply am taking no further part in this thread.

I bid you all goodnight

I’m giddy but I actually meant goady!

Cossy
You can’t know if Primrose or any other poster supports the right of asylum seekers to claim asylum here.I would think that most people support genuine asylum seekers.
This new initiative may work, it has in Canada apparently but it’s a big country with a lot of room for incomers.

I certainly find the post by DAR to be goady, the one citing AI.
Nothing remotely clever about it.

I think that those willing to help Ukrainian families were well intentioned and some of those cases did work out but many didn’t.It would be the same for this new idea, in fact I would be surprised if it got off the ground.

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It wouldnt matter to me whether refugees were white or black. People in need are people in need.
Someone nentioned £350 a month wouldn't cover food for a family of four. It isn't supposed to. That is supposed to be a thank you payment from the government and helps pay for extra fuel costs etc. We chose to all eat together as a family and our guests gave us so much a week towards food costs from their benefit initially and then their wages. Other households manage it differently and their guests buy their own food , cook it and eat it by themselves.
Financially we will not have benefitted. That was obviously never our intention. We had a 2 year old and a 4 year old with the first family and a few things got damaged/ broken.
We have the benefit of a big house with several bathrooms. We had 5 children of our own so were used to a houseful. We have enough money to not worry about it.
Our two experiences have been very positive and we wouldn't have missed it for the world. We hope to have long term friendships with the two families

Rosie51

Maremia

Accusations of 'nasty'.
Accusations of 'sarcasm'.
Could this be attempts to 'control' a Thread by 'suggesting' how Posters respond?

Thought that was to be discouraged?

Who made an accusation that CatsWhiskas' post was nasty other than me? I stand by my accusation that it was unnecessary and nasty I assume you've never travelled on a road or been in a plane, if you're so risk-averse. do you believe this as being other than a sarcastic put down?
Have the courage of your convictions Maremia and name posters or else you're just stirring the pot.

It wasn't sarcastic. It was in the context of the "one bad apple" justification.

I expect Maremia didn't name you directly because she was trying to avoid her post being deleted.

Frankly, my opinion is that your comment is a personal attack, but I'm not going to report it.

Oh please report it CatsWhiskas if you really think I've attacked you, but you're totally innocent of an attack on FGT.
Maybe that's the real reason?

mumofmadboys

It wouldnt matter to me whether refugees were white or black. People in need are people in need.
Someone nentioned £350 a month wouldn't cover food for a family of four. It isn't supposed to. That is supposed to be a thank you payment from the government and helps pay for extra fuel costs etc. We chose to all eat together as a family and our guests gave us so much a week towards food costs from their benefit initially and then their wages. Other households manage it differently and their guests buy their own food , cook it and eat it by themselves.
Financially we will not have benefitted. That was obviously never our intention. We had a 2 year old and a 4 year old with the first family and a few things got damaged/ broken.
We have the benefit of a big house with several bathrooms. We had 5 children of our own so were used to a houseful. We have enough money to not worry about it.
Our two experiences have been very positive and we wouldn't have missed it for the world. We hope to have long term friendships with the two families

That’s all lovely for you, but the average family in the uk can barely afford to feed its own family.
Of course if I see a homeless person, usually white British male, drunk, druggie, or just down on their luck, I always buy them something to eat.
The migrants on the other hand, in our town, Lovely clothes, head phones, phones & somewhere to live. So no I wouldn’t go up to them & offer a sandwich as think they are doing ok.

And now Posters are claiming that AI is goady.

And no Rosie, you do not 'command' how I post on this Thread.

Can I just say, the rather crude assumption that Ukrainians are " like us" and others aren't is rather wide of the mark.

I know people who assisted with the Ukrainian scheme and after the initial flurry of good will, it proved rather a challenge in some respects.

Rosie51 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 spot on there.

As I said upthread, there are more ways of helping asylum seekers than offering to have them in your home.
You are not required to be an actual host.
To suggest that is the only way to do it is indeed strange.
Church organisations provide assistance and support.
If you belong to a Christian organisation you will be aware of and perhaps have supported such programmes.
Other religions have their versions of charity.
People with no belief have non denominational organisation they may wish to support.
Lots of ways to help.

That has nothing to do with this proposed Ukrainian style idea by the government, which hasn’t gone through Parliament yet .

A Somali-born British man has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder and dangerous driving after a car hit a group of pedestrians in London yesterday.

Speculation is rife at present.

I rest my case.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

A Somali-born British man has been arrested on suspicion of attempted murder and dangerous driving after a car hit a group of pedestrians in London yesterday.

Speculation is rife at present.

I rest my case.

Terrible! I was also horrified to read a French National (born in Central African Republic) has been charged yesterday with the murder of a 2 year old girl in Surrey.
Also charged with rape of child under 13 and sexual assault.