Burnham: Is the Media Tempting Fate by Jumping the Gun?

It stands to reason though doesn’t it Doodledog? These migrants will stay in the UK come what may and they can’t live in disused Army barracks forever. Watch this space. I’d put money on it.

I left the Labour Party when Corbyn was elected Leader. My preferred choice was Yvette Cooper. I am now a member of the Fabians. The medic heaven a lot to answer for.

KS wouldn’t have resigned if he had the support of his MP’s

Media!

GrannyGravy13

KS wouldn’t have resigned if he had the support of his MP’s

I agree GG.

Can’t describe how angry I am with them!

FriedGreenTomatoes2

It stands to reason though doesn’t it Doodledog? These migrants will stay in the UK come what may and they can’t live in disused Army barracks forever. Watch this space. I’d put money on it.

If they are granted asylum and are allowed to stay here to work in the country then yes, they will need somewhere to live, so rather than making the existing housing shortage worse it makes sense to build more. If they are not living here legally they won't get social housing, so won't be taking houses from others on the list.

‘Granted asylum and a right to work’?
That’d be excellent.

What we do have are too many migrants not being assessed, living off the taxpayer, wandering around, ‘getting lost’ in the stystem (verifiable, sadly). More will come and until that happy day when some do contribute they will cost us all a great deal of money.

And who benefits most from new housing stock? Those who have been on lists for years and are (just about) managing? Or new incomers -with nowhere to live.

I’d take a guess.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Burnham wants ‘more devolution’. Oh heck.
Did anyone vote for this? Only devolution has worked so well for Scotland and Wales hasn’t it? Not.

Limited devolution has actually worked very well for Manchester. Maybe he wants that for the whole country.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

And social housing is top of his agenda. No surprise there then - these rubber boat migrants need to be housed somewhere eventually as most of them WILL be staying.

This is near our daughter, 120 asylum seekers to be housed in the village of Stoke Heath.

This is a remote rural community.

www.westmercia-pcc.gov.uk/posts/pcc-letter-to-home-secretary-on-stoke-heath-

I agree with both of you. It seemed to me that KS was used as an acceptable face to get elected whereupon he would be pushed aside in favour of one of the far left candidates apparently cleared out of the party but standing in the wings.

While I don't agree this was the plan from the start there has been a case in the past. Andrew McIntosh was the acceptable face who led the Labour party to a win in the Greater London Council elections in 1981. The very next day an internal vote ousted him as leader and put Ken Livingstone in place.

This whole Burnham affair does leave a nasty taste in the mouth, especially that staged selfie photo of him in parliament with a huge crowd of MPs behind him. When have we ever seen that for a newly elected MP after a by-election before?

Burnham is not even PM yet and he's being vilified. I am not happy with Starmer being hounded and how can governments get on with the job when the press is yapping at their heels looking for something, anything to criticise.
Too many opinions to fit their own particular agenda.
I will stick mainly to Reuters who state facts without opinions.

Has anyone ever wondered why we take on so many immigrants when we are struggling with resources and infrastructure? Is it to patch over the low birth rate? Massage the economy, assist in the wealth accumulation of overseas slum landlords who are buying up most of the old terraced houses for HMO's?
Is it to fill the low end jobs that the UK population won't take on?

Because whatever the answer, it isn't party specific. Since Brexit the tories arranged a landslide record surge of uneducated, single male immigrants into the most struggling North West cities and towns, where ghetto's are already in formation. These towns are now weighted towards the male gender, many of whom do not respect women. This isn't 'diversity', it is unprecedented.

This isn't a single party issue and no single party (no matter what they promise) are invested in any kind of measured dialogue about the topic, nor are they prepared to 'fix' whatever the issue is, since it is quite obviously a very lucrative set up....for someone.

Just a big thank you for your grounded and well reasoned posts, Doodledog.

Should like to add: I have always been pro immigration/diversity and my politics have been progressive for hte most part. And even I can see there's something amiss.
I agree with the PP who says that the media in the country is dangerous.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

‘Granted asylum and a right to work’?
That’d be excellent.

What we do have are too many migrants not being assessed, living off the taxpayer, wandering around, ‘getting lost’ in the stystem (verifiable, sadly). More will come and until that happy day when some do contribute they will cost us all a great deal of money.

And who benefits most from new housing stock? Those who have been on lists for years and are (just about) managing? Or new incomers -with nowhere to live.

I’d take a guess.

I agree that it would be excellent. The problem has been that refugees are unable to work, so have nothing do but hang about, and need benefits to support themselves.

If, as has been promised, they can be fast-tracked to acceptance or rejection, and can then become citizens, that might stop some of the complaints about young men on street corners and people being given money, however little that is in reality.

I haven't seen the detail of the plan (I doubt it's out yet, as AB is not in office as PM) but in the usual way of things new applicants will join the lists and be allocated homes depending on points. I'm not sure how the 'just about managing' will be disadvantaged in this case, although I agree that they get a very bad deal on the whole because of means-testing.

I am64 it’s not about her being a successful woman…it’s about HIM giving her company a multi million pound contract!
Hasn,t there been far too much of these deals from governments recently.
Is it acceptable to hand out large sums of public money to family and friends?

Padstow13

Well, the iNewspaper seems to be - featuring a photo of the Burnham tribe billed as "the new First Family".

Eh? There's the not insignificant matter of democratic process......or is Andy Burnham's visa to Downing Street sorted and just waiting to be rubber-stamped?

It's very odd. You can almost hear them bowing in the direction of Trump and the USA!

Agreed DAR.

Sickening!

I have a feeling AB will want to cozy up to Trump.

Starmer got it right with Trump - no cosying up but a firm stand when needed. He managed this without alienating him - he deserves a medal for this not hounding out.

LizzieDrip

Agreed DAR.

Sickening!

I really have no idea why posters think Burnham will be any different from Starmer as regards stance on Trump, except hurt and anger at what happened to Starmer?

And why join in, in the "dirt digging" when we deplore what goes on, in the press?

Just giving my opinion about AB Wyllow.

I accept I’m in the minority - that’s fine.

It was just a matter of time, wan't it?

That's him on TV just now, for those who watch BBC News.

I agree with the Posters who are saying that Media has a lot of influence/control over 'direction'.