UK To Be Iran's War Target?

I don't know how a " lay person" can have in depth and balanced knowledge about Iran.

Nobody deserves to have their children murdered.

I suspect it's about money, oil and an insane old man in the end.

Andy Burnham is saying we will protect ourselves.

That sounds very glib.
Hope he has ideas.

The threat from Iran was made in retaliation for the UK proscribing the IRGC as a terrorist organisation.
I don't think we are in any more danger than before and according to security services the levels are high.
Security Service is a big part of our defence and needs to be well staffed.
I don't think it is at present.

Don't think it matters who is the 'name' in charge of Iran.
Iran, evil or not, are playing a blinder.
Netanyahu has played Trump for a fool.
Who in the UK thinks that the US should 'do more'?
I see no evidence of that.

It’s easy for us to be “experts” on the situation from the comfort of our arm chairs and the safety, so far, of this country. I believe war rarely solves anything and damages everyone involved, whether on the “right” or “wrong” side according to where we are coming from.

Children, especially bear the deepest wounds of conflict and they didn’t choose it. They suffer not only damage but the effects last throughout their lives. Many of us have grandchildren who face an unstable future because of irresponsible power hungry leaders.

That is so, Farzanah.
Every other way should be tried first,
and second,
and third......

Labour politicians spend years disrespectfully bad mouthing Trump and now they try to “charm him”.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Labour politicians spend years disrespectfully bad mouthing Trump and now they try to “charm him”.

He is an absolute monster.

Thousands and thousands of people ( including children) are being maimed and killed on a daily basis.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Labour politicians spend years disrespectfully bad mouthing Trump and now they try to “charm him”.

Whereas Trump is renowned for being a model of charm, thoughtfulness and diplomacy at all times.
😂😂😂

How would you contrast the approach of ‘Labour politicians’ with that of their predecessors?

They are trying to 'deal' with him.
He is a convicted felon, mentioned multiple times in the Epstein Files, and totally charmless.

Trouble is, have we ever had to face someone like Trump to deal with before, because he is the first to break with Nato and play his tariff game of pic n mix and isolate the USA from the WHO, hit the UN hard, and so on.
I think possibly Sunak would not have fallen at their feet but Boris J?

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Labour politicians spend years disrespectfully bad mouthing Trump and now they try to “charm him”.

😄 - my grandmother used to say to me at times - and I think it is appropriate.

“You talk as your belly guides you”

Meaning too much emotion not enough analytical thinking. 😊😊.

But hey-Ho

They do what is necessary, FGT. Its always best to maintain friendly relationships diplomatically unless circumstances call for "standing up to him".

But surely one expects nothing else? what else would you want to see?

Today's Burnham interview with Laura Kuenssberg follows that pattern - basically following the Starmer policy. A friendly initial meeting with Trump but “we will stick up for our interests”.

Just up on I player

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clye651yzdjo

The diplomat who seemed to get on very well with him was Mandelson.
I wonder how that could be the case?

Well I doubt Burnham will appoint anyone new at least for some time after all that. I actually had to look up the current person - Sir Christopher Turner - sort of Oxbridge non political very experienced type. Probably safe is good. Anyway we have our best UK representative to hand...

... in the King ...

(I think my very leftie parents would have had a fit were they here to read what I have just written, but matters were rather different when you had, as my Dad had, lived through the Hitler supporting Edward VIII.)

Oreo
I don't think you are presenting the "balanced" picture you believe.
The Group for Analyzing and Measuring Attitudes in Iran use clever and anonymous methods to sample public feeling and they, like
​sociologists and Middle East scholars, consistently contradict your "50-50" idea..
The majority would like to see substantial change (80 to 85%) but are facing a deeply entrenched, well-armed minority who hold political and military control.

Neither do a people coming from such a rich culture as Persia going back thousands of years want Americanisation!

This country is so in need of steady, experienced diplomats and politicians not a new, inexperienced PM who has rarely even commented on world affairs and then we have Milliband as foreign secretary!

With the huge changes taking place in The Buckingham Palace, this could rapidly cease to be as I have read King Charles is in hospital and King William & Princess Anne & Queen Katherine are in charge.

Read this on Facebook .. I normally take Facebook with a grain of salt however, it seems to be a strong possibility.

Maremia

Those little school girls did not deserve that bombing.
The BBC has a programme about it in the News menu.

That was tragic, but this regime need removing and the Iranian people need to get their lives back. I have 2 Iranian colleagues they aren't religious, the religion is colonising Iran as it did the whole of the middle east and into Asia many years ago, they have no human rights, people get beaten for drinking alcohol.

Britian is very much involved. he formation of Israel, stealing Irans oil in the 50's, endless support for America in bombing the M.E as a whole. I hope Iran is giving them a kick up the bum.

NotSpaghetti

Oreo
I don't think you are presenting the "balanced" picture you believe.
The Group for Analyzing and Measuring Attitudes in Iran use clever and anonymous methods to sample public feeling and they, like
​sociologists and Middle East scholars, consistently contradict your "50-50" idea..
The majority would like to see substantial change (80 to 85%) but are facing a deeply entrenched, well-armed minority who hold political and military control.

It isn’t my 50/50 but what I have consistently read and if course with a country such as Iran it must be very difficult to ever get a really clear picture.If it really is 80 to 85 percent that want substantial change from what they have in the present regime, that’s a very high figure.I suspect those who are more educated and live a more sophisticated life in the cities are keener on change than those in the countryside.The streets of Tehran packed with men and women muffled up in black clothing shouting and weeping at the recent funerals sought to give a picture that Iran is unified but they were probably bussed in for that very reason.
The minority hardliners as you say, hold the weapons and power and are so harsh with reprisals as we saw last January that it’s very difficult for dissidents to rise up and seize that
power unfortunately.

Essexgirl145

Britian is very much involved. he formation of Israel, stealing Irans oil in the 50's, endless support for America in bombing the M.E as a whole. I hope Iran is giving them a kick up the bum.

Do you hate the US or is it just Trump? Do you know that Iran murdered 36,000 of its own citizens in just two days last January?
That regular beatings, rape and murder are carried out there on girls, women who’s only ‘crime’ is not covering their hair?
Do you know that Iran pays its proxies such as hezbollah, hamas and the houthis to carry out terrorist attacks, and kidnappings and murders?

Moii

Maremia

Those little school girls did not deserve that bombing.
The BBC has a programme about it in the News menu.

That was tragic, but this regime need removing and the Iranian people need to get their lives back. I have 2 Iranian colleagues they aren't religious, the religion is colonising Iran as it did the whole of the middle east and into Asia many years ago, they have no human rights, people get beaten for drinking alcohol.

It was tragic, I think we can all agree on that.A mistake most definitely.That wouldn’t have happened if a primary school hadn’t been attached to an IRG military base, only separated by a wall. Not known about by US intelligence.