Well of course if we were in the EU but there you go, sovereign nation and all that - cuts both ways. Nige and his merry band forgot that bit
Is Gransnet leaning more to the left?
You have received a windfall ...
How wonderful you work hard and buy a nice house in a nice area and Andy Burnham PM wants to put foreign men we know nothing about who come from third world countries in the house next door to you and your family and the final straw is they don't have to pay a penny it's all free for them, no wonder they are rushing to board the Mega Boats bringing in 230 men a time here. Ain't life grand well it is for them, utopia.
Well of course if we were in the EU but there you go, sovereign nation and all that - cuts both ways. Nige and his merry band forgot that bit
But why would France agree to accept asylum seekers the UK takes to France against the asylum seekers will? It is not legally obliged to do so. France has already responded to Reform UK Operation Fortress proposals with a firm no! The UK does not legislate on behalf of France and most would recognise the UK cannot tell France what to do.
So in what way would you relegislate as you suggest to be able to return boat people to France- what would this law say? What laws should the UK also decide not to comply with any more?
Which new laws could possibly allow the UK not needing adhere to existing maritime and international asylum seeker laws?
Aveline
To be able to return boat people to France
Er the word France is doing a lot of the heavy lifting in this sentence.
To be able to return boat people to France
Aveline
It's not the ones with visas that people are concerned about.
If that's the case in what way would you want a UK government to relegislate to allow us more control of asylum seekers who enter the country.
I wish that were true Aveline. It isn’t. When the racist attacks and riots have taken place in recent years, migrants homes have been targeted, regardless of whether those people worked for the NHS or were here legitimately in other roles, were from the country or religion being targeted or not.
It's not the ones with visas that people are concerned about.
Aveline
Rights are not God given or immutable. We could relegislate to allow us more control of who enters the country.
We have - and over the years the legislation has changed, The numbers coming with visas have dramatically reduced
The UK already does control how many regular immigrant applications are granted
However ss there a way to legislate to prevent asylum seekers seeking asylum?
Has any other country in the world ever managed to do that- if so how?
Rights are not God given or immutable. We could relegislate to allow us more control of who enters the country.
You know what AB can do! Move them in No 10 or better still his other home in Manchester, then tell us who we should have and where,
Gran22boys
Gran22boys
Whatever angle the posts about migrants come from I always ask, and will ask again, at what point do we say enough is enough? Quite how many people can this small country absorb?
Nobody has answered me.
Maybe because it's not possible to say enough is enough for those legally seeking asylum.
This country, in fact no country in the world, can legally disallow asylum seekers coming to claim asylum on the basis of 'enough is enough' because asylum seekers have a legal right to arrive in a country and seek asylum. This has been repeated many, many times.
Various countries can and do try various measures to process and accommodate asylum seekers during the application process but it would in fact be illegal not to consider and process their applications.
The country can and does however control regular immigration applications and can more legitimately determine whether 'enough is enough' in relation to regular immigration applications.
Gran22boys
Gran22boys
Whatever angle the posts about migrants come from I always ask, and will ask again, at what point do we say enough is enough? Quite how many people can this small country absorb?
Nobody has answered me.
Because nobody wants to or simply can’t say? Enough was ten years ago in my view.
Silvershadow
It was ever thus MartavTaurus. Growing up in the sixties at an all girls grammar which backed onto open parkland we ‘gels’ were issued dire warnings, couched in very vague terms, about keeping away from the boundaries unless in groups, no going near on your own. Enough was said to make us aware of something but in our naive ways we did not know what.
Nettles?😁
Cossy
Meandrogrog 13:56
So sorry if I’ve not answered questions quickly enough for some of you, those that know will understand why!
My answer is, and always has been, if you’d had the courtesy to ever read any of my posts all the way though, no!
I have always acknowledged people crossing the channel in this way is not what I wish to continue and would love to see stop.
Maybe for different reasons to some of you.
However, I also acknowledge that currently there is no other route for them.
Also, with all respect, again if you bothered to read my sometimes lengthy texts, you’ll actually see that not only do I express my views, as we all are entitled to do, I also include stats and facts.
Yes, they are are problem which needs a quick resolution.
No, they are not the single largest nor important problem our country and our citizens face.
👏👏
Gran22boys
Whatever angle the posts about migrants come from I always ask, and will ask again, at what point do we say enough is enough? Quite how many people can this small country absorb?
Nobody has answered me.
No need to apologise for typos Cossy- easily done at the best of times. Take care and best wishes for your grandson.
Tuliptree
Cossy - why did you apologise? Just keep your mind where it matters . Hope all is well x

Primrose53 14:44 Thank you and I also wish you well too 
Cossy
Sorry about typos, my mind is not completely functionally fully, but I’m sure you’ll get the gist of my replies.
I’m popping in and out of here in the hope of taking my mind of our critically ill grandson for a few short moments.
I’m sure some of us know exactly how you feel Cossy. I have been dipping in and out for the last 18 months. A few moments doing something else can be a little light relief.
Very best wishes to you all and fingers crossed for Henry. 🤞
Cossy - why did you apologise? Just keep your mind where it matters . Hope all is well x
Sorry about typos, my mind is not completely functionally fully, but I’m sure you’ll get the gist of my replies.
I’m popping in and out of here in the hope of taking my mind of our critically ill grandson for a few short moments. 
Meandrogrog 13:56
So sorry if I’ve not answered questions quickly enough for some of you, those that know will understand why!
My answer is, and always has been, if you’d had the courtesy to ever read any of my posts all the way though, no!
I have always acknowledged people crossing the channel in this way is not what I wish to continue and would love to see stop.
Maybe for different reasons to some of you.
However, I also acknowledge that currently there is no other route for them.
Also, with all respect, again if you bothered to read my sometimes lengthy texts, you’ll actually see that not only do I express my views, as we all are entitled to do, I also include stats and facts.
Yes, they are are problem which needs a quick resolution.
No, they are not the single largest nor important problem our country and our citizens face.
Silvershadow
We ought to start a separate thread on it Cossy. This one is too important for us to hijack it I expect. I’m happy to do so.
Go for it 🌻🌻🌻👍👍👍
sundowngirl
Cossy
Sunshinegirls
Andy Burnham says wealthy areas must take more illegal immigrants, not just poor areas. He really doesn’t get it, does he? (Copied from X PC)
This is my point we don't want anymore Mega Boat migrants full stop. Not in poor areas and not in wealthy areas.Correction! you not we Please don’t speak for others
Cossy - Are you happy for more Mega boat migrants to keep coming?
Why????
I have asked the same question with no response made.
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