Principality of Piddington

wendyann23

It isn’t a prison and the asylum seekers living there will be free to go wherever they want. I think is what those living in Piddington are concerned about. 2.3 miles is walking distance for young fit males with time on their hands and little to do. Maybe it would be better if the asylum seekers there were confined to the barracks until their claims processed? They are here illegally.

They are not here illegally.

I do understand Piddington’a concerned, not because these are migrants, but housing 1,200 men with no jobs (not their fault) and nothing to do, (not their fault) very close to to a village, of only 300-350 residents doesn’t seem like the best idea.

sundowngirl

Plevey08

The above is in response to Sundowngirl.

But you were using the argument that the Dublin agreement was the reason we couldn’t return these illegals immigrants. I was just pointing out it didn’t work well before Brexit

You are absolutely right Sundowngirl. I have read that also.

fancythat

Not a chance

No, so much easier just to dismiss things, using opinions or beliefs, rather than facts eh 😜😜

But the slogans have come from both sides. And if I was being immature I would argue that the progressives started it. Diversity is our strength,etc - well for many communities it didnt seem that way. My guess is that the villagers of Piddington may also have said those slogans, until....

Galaxy

But the slogans have come from both sides. And if I was being immature I would argue that the progressives started it. Diversity is our strength,etc - well for many communities it didnt seem that way. My guess is that the villagers of Piddington may also have said those slogans, until....

Yep, that is being immature. What is your solution, as an intelligent woman who claims to see both sides? When people say they want no illegal immigration at all what would you actually do?

AI

Small Boat Numbers Prior to 2018

Close to-zero recorded crossings: Significant small boat crossings did not happen or were not detected by authorities before late 2018, when just 299 people were logged for the entire year. [

(https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-10590/)

(https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/people-crossing-the-english-channel-in-small-boats/)

Shift in routes: Before small boats became common around 2019 and 2020, irregular migrants primarily tried to enter the UK by hiding in lorries, cars, or ferries.

Post-Brexit rise: According to data compiled by the Migration Observatory, numbers surged significantly in the years following, peaking at over 45,000 in 2022.

Cossy

fancythat

Not a chance

No, so much easier just to dismiss things, using opinions or beliefs, rather than facts eh 😜😜

a.
Wasnt going to do this but will

a.as I have written before
I have multiple grandchildren.
Consider them more important that reading a lenghty and wordy document
b. I have a husband
c. 2 businesses
d. done want to read a lengthy document
e. to eg read section 23 subsection 4a1.
f. have a life outside of GN
g. am a Christian. Can my life best be spent reading that document. I dont think so! I kow it cant!
Here God, I didnt do such and such as reading about a place outside Piddlington.
Tomorrow, treading about the House of Lords, day after, or maybe tomorrow evening, the Policies of such and such. And if I have time, the whole of the Guardian, cover to cover. Oh no, I forgot, read that this morning before breakfast.

Shall I go on to f. g. h etc?
Perhaps not. But can do.

I don't think people are trying to grind others down fancythat. You clearly have strong feelings on all that is happening regarding AS. And that is understandable, as we all do. Some people choose to try and understand the reasons behind the current problems. Which often leads you to see why things are happening as they are. Thereafter who might be best placed to manage these complex problems. It doesn't help to attack the asylum seekers....it is easy to forget why they risk there lives to get here.
As Casdon says ill- conceived slogans just rile people up. These might hit the sweet spot if you are feeling angry of frightened. But they are not long term solutions.

I do think GN needs to move on a bit from it's seeming wish from some that everyone has all the time in the world.

And I will add something else.
I am not even retired yet!
I am not the average age of what seems on here to be 78.
I am not 88 either.
Some grannies are not!

Times have changed!

Grannies have to work!

I could go on.
Oh how I could go on.

This all assumes I want to read a 200 piece document about whatever.
And on .. and on.. and on..
Ooh, I might like to help people in my neighbourhood.
Fancy that.
From a Christian as well...

No I should stay in and read countless documents!
And do my duty of GN.
Pah. Bah humbug etc.
What with all the time I have abounding.

I have many interests.
Not enough time to deal with them all.
Nowhere near enough time.

That took me 5 minutes.
Got that off my chest as well. For now.

And how about praying.
Like I am praying for you Grandson.
Should I stop that and read a document instead?

I'm glad you got that off your chest fancythat 🤣 just drop in when you fancy or not as the case may be. I do.

Thank you very much.
Much appreciated.

I'm not keen on long documents either. Had too many when I was working.
I hope your grandson is okay.

Btw, “illegal immigration” can only refer to Asylum Seekers who failed to meet the criteria, didn’t appeal and disappeared, those who arrive via illegals means and don’t register and, the biggest group of all, visa overstayers, who arrived quite legally.

fancythat

And how about praying.
Like I am praying for you Grandson.
Should I stop that and read a document instead?

Oh bless you x No, please carry on, I cannot stand long documents either.

Plevey08

I'm not keen on long documents either. Had too many when I was working.
I hope your grandson is okay.

Thank you x He’s “stable” 🩵

fancythat

This all assumes I want to read a 200 piece document about whatever.
And on .. and on.. and on..
Ooh, I might like to help people in my neighbourhood.
Fancy that.
From a Christian as well...

No I should stay in and read countless documents!
And do my duty of GN.
Pah. Bah humbug etc.
What with all the time I have abounding.

I have many interests.
Not enough time to deal with them all.
Nowhere near enough time.

I’m so sorry, but that really made me smile

However, I’m a great believer that a good rants and getting things off one’s chest is good for you!

Thank you.

fancythat

I do think GN needs to move on a bit from it's seeming wish from some that everyone has all the time in the world.

And I will add something else.
I am not even retired yet!
I am not the average age of what seems on here to be 78.
I am not 88 either.
Some grannies are not!

Times have changed!

Grannies have to work!

I could go on.
Oh how I could go on.

I’m “only” 67 and not that long retire

Or even retired

CarrotTop

It seems to me that this probably isn't about "fairness" of placement", it's more about shoe-horning people in wherever they can. The whole immigration system needs a huge overhaul, but where to start? The current situation reminds me of John Lanchester's novel "The Wall". When I read it in about 2020, I'd have said it couldn't happen in reality -- but now . . .?

We can start by stopping any more boats reaching our shores, we can leave the ECHR, we can deport everyone that came by boat, we can stop giving them benefits, we can keep them in secure compounds instead of giving them free access to wherever they feel like going, we are losing control of our country, after watching a reporter in Calais this week I can see how the invasion is all planned and paid for by governments, the enemy within, God help us.

fancythat I totally understand where you are coming from. I also don’t have time or energy to read these long winded documents or the multiple paragraphs copied and pasted from ChatGPT

We know why there are coming to the UK - it’s the ‘pull factor’ even Macron agrees

Nobody has really addressed the issue of the risk to girls and women.

Under FOI the information regarding the sexual assaults attacks and rapes on women from foreign nationals is not collected, it was stated that the nationality of victims but not of perpetrators was recorded. (See photo)

Women and school girls have been handed rape alarms in some areas where migrants are housed.
Migrants have been handed booklets outlining the law and explaining consent.

I too would be very concerned about my daughter or granddaughter living near migrant accommodation.

Oh and finally……. Yes I know plenty of women are attacked by British nationals but it does seem the attacks by migrants are disproportionate but the government won’t give us the stats so we will never know.