Home Secretary says nearly all women who attempt to each UK in small boats are raped on their journey

What would I suggest?
Not having any experience in this complex situation, I will accept your challenge and put up for discussion the following limited ideas.
Aid with transport.
Establish places of safety.
Fast track the paperwork.
The shorter and quicker the journey, the less opportunity for assault.
I sm sure you too could come up with practical suggestions, to help get the ball rolling.

Maremia
When you say aid with transport are you suggesting that aid workers and volunteers go and pick these people up and transport them?
What do you mean by places of safety is that on the journey or in the uk?
Fast tracking of paperwork isa no no. Even if we had a HO that was up to speed you are dealing with people ( Afghanistan in particular) whose birth was never registered.
Eritrea, Somalia, Sudan aren’t exactly up to speed with tech so checking people is practically zero.
How are you suggesting that we move these people.
You can’t fly if you havnt got a passport.
You can’t cross borders without a passport.

You can’t cross borders without a passport.

I don't for one moment believe that all the asylum seekers and refugees have ever had passports, but they have clearly been able to cross many borders to end up in France.

I seem to recall that France offered to let us set up a processing area at Calais when we Brexited but Johnson turned the offer down. It wouldn't have done anything to ameliorate the assaults women suffer, but it could have reduced the traffickers 'business'.

Not a false memory, either. From The Sun. 2021

www.thesun.co.uk/news/16901902/emmanuel-macron-asylum-seeker-processing-centre/

I have given my non expert suggestion, to get the ball rolling as so many of you seem genuinely concerned about the safety of these women.
Like any 'hypothesis' you put forward a 'suggestion' which is then discussed and refined.
So, if you are one of the genuinely concerned, have a go at suggesting what could be done.

MaizieD

^You can’t cross borders without a passport.^

I don't for one moment believe that all the asylum seekers and refugees have ever had passports, but they have clearly been able to cross many borders to end up in France.

I seem to recall that France offered to let us set up a processing area at Calais when we Brexited but Johnson turned the offer down. It wouldn't have done anything to ameliorate the assaults women suffer, but it could have reduced the traffickers 'business'.

I agree but that's far too rational for GN Maizie.

Maremia

I have given my non expert suggestion, to get the ball rolling as so many of you seem genuinely concerned about the safety of these women.
Like any 'hypothesis' you put forward a 'suggestion' which is then discussed and refined.
So, if you are one of the genuinely concerned, have a go at suggesting what could be done.

I would suggest we stop considering people seeking asylum as less than human for a start. Ask them for solutions, work alongside them.

Massive investment in the HO.

Allow people seeking asylum to work Set up some sort of national volunteering scheme as a start.

A speedy and clear "processing" process.

Regarding the non registration of birth for some people, you have to start somewhere, so assign them a date.

Primrose 53 please don't stop posting, you have my full support.

Marg75

*Primrose 53* please don't stop posting, you have my full support.

And mine Primrose53

sundowngirl

Marg75

Primrose 53 please don't stop posting, you have my full support.

And mine Primrose53

And mine, please don’t let the b******s grind you down!!

I seem to recall that France offered to let us set up a processing area at Calais when we Brexited but Johnson turned the offer down.

Yes, I remember that MaizieD - but can't remember why Johnson rejected the idea.

I do remember though thinking that it would never fly in that post-Brexit climate where the negative, but inevitable, effects of leaving were interpreted as deliberate acts of sabotage by the EU.

We'll never know how that might have worked. and obviously, such a system wouldn't be without its own problems, but I agree it would've dented the traffickers' operations and, maybe, even allowed some women to be processed who would otherwise face the sharp elbows of their male counterparts. It's impossible to know - but I do wonder why Johnson flatly refused the offer.

Setting up an asylum application centre in France, the only thing that it would achieve would be to cut out some of the cross channel trafficking.

By the time these women/men/children have reached the French coast they have travelled 100’s of miles and already encountered traffickers, extortion and rapists on the way.

GrannyGravy13

Setting up an asylum application centre in France, the only thing that it would achieve would be to cut out some of the cross channel trafficking.

By the time these women/men/children have reached the French coast they have travelled 100’s of miles and already encountered traffickers, extortion and rapists on the way.

Setting up an asylum application centre in France, the only thing that it would achieve would be to cut out some of the cross channel trafficking.

Yes, that's what I thought too. One can't assume all AS's would, after having travelled God-knows how many miles with destination-UK in mind, then simply queue-up to be processed in Calais... but was that the reason why Johnson objected to the proposal?

I don't understand why these services can't be attached to our various embassies.

Yes! At last, a practical solution.

NotSpaghetti

I don't understand why these services can't be attached to our various embassies.

I have suggested this on previous threads over many years.

Answers always seem that they would be unsuitable and not sufficiently staffed to deal with the situation.

I have thought this for years too.

Just get more staff in!!

What happens when the woman are fast tracked, are the men fast tracked too? Or are they already here?

We are never going to stop the trafficker’s.
We are never going to stop the inflatables and migrants coming across borders. Too much money changing hands.
My daughter was on the team testing the latest computer system at the HO, they have yet to find second gear.
Our only hope is France. But to be fair it’s not in their interest to stop the migrants.
Would we have handled the situation any different if the circumstances were reversed.

The French can’t stop the boats either. Around 2,200 miles of French coastline faces the UK, it’s an impossible task. They aren’t only coming from France either, and whatever is done, they will find ways of getting here. We need to improve our detection and deportation.

Actually I agree with Starmer for once, when he said we are becoming are a nation of strangers, after what I saw this morning coming out Lidl, a bloke have a crap in the bushes, I hope they got it on camera, btw.
Are we just supposed to put up with this behaviour from other cultures? It’s down right disgusting, my poor mother didn’t know where to look.
Our town is becoming a right dump.
But those on the left like your Labour & Greens think we are so much better for being diverse & culturally enriched. Well they can keep it.
It’s not about skin colour to me it’s the dirty habits of spitting, throwing their rubbish on the street. Now this, I hope it’s just a one off.

MT62

Actually I agree with Starmer for once, when he said we are becoming are a nation of strangers, after what I saw this morning coming out Lidl, a bloke have a crap in the bushes, I hope they got it on camera, btw.
Are we just supposed to put up with this behaviour from other cultures? It’s down right disgusting, my poor mother didn’t know where to look.
Our town is becoming a right dump.
But those on the left like your Labour & Greens think we are so much better for being diverse & culturally enriched. Well they can keep it.
It’s not about skin colour to me it’s the dirty habits of spitting, throwing their rubbish on the street. Now this, I hope it’s just a one off.

I also fully support primrose 100%

I think what Keir Starmer said was actually a warning he was actually saying that without stronger rules and controls -

"We risk becoming an island of strangers, not a nation that walks forward together".

Not that we are becoming.

NotSpaghetti

I think what Keir Starmer said was actually a warning he was actually saying that without stronger rules and controls -

"We risk becoming an island of strangers, not a nation that walks forward together".

Not that we are becoming.

Oh not where you are you mean?