Home Secretary says nearly all women who attempt to each UK in small boats are raped on their journey

NotSpaghetti

I think what Keir Starmer said was actually a warning he was actually saying that without stronger rules and controls -

"We risk becoming an island of strangers, not a nation that walks forward together".

Not that we are becoming.

No one so far as I’ve seen is suggesting Primrose should stop posting. Simple answers to complex problems don’t work. If smashing the gangs, stopping the boats was easily achievable one of our governments would have done it. Organised crime flourishes, drugs, people, it doesn’t matter to brutal criminals who are making vast profits out of misery.

How many threads have we had on gransnet where some posters repeat that the asylum seekers are usually fit young men exactly because the perilous journeys are too dangerous for women and children?

I saw an article exhibition in Berlin several years ago, which detailed the artists attempts to get from the Middle East to Europe. He’d left at age 17 using money his extended family put together with the aim he would claim asylum and family members could follow. He detailed assaults, exploitation, theft of his cash and his attempts to earn money so he could do as he intended.

We lose humanity if we don’t see the complexity of the problems our world is facing

My point is have we enough room in our tiny country for all these people? Iam64.
& yes its usually is all young men, the women are knocked out of the way when trying to climb on to these boats. I don’t see any care & attention to the few woman & kids trying board these boats.

And that is exactly why there should be 'safe routes' established, isn't it?

Just for the sake of trying to put a new light on the matter of the tens of thousands of these illegal migrants arriving here: how would this sort of thing be addressed if they arrived on the beaches of eg Pakistan or Malaysia?

I’m not suggesting the arrival of many people in these ways isn’t problematic. We need European countries to cooperate in effective responses. We need safe routes and yes, strategies to stop the organised crime groups exploiting desperate (or bad) people

Aveline, I understand your question. I’m not being flippant in remembering the colonial past of the uk and other European countries. We did arrive on the shores of Africa, India, Malaysia and more. We weren’t invited, we invaded and set ourselves up as more civilised and intelligent than indigenous people. Little wonder links between the countries of those seeking refuge and European countries remain strong

These men are not particular if it's animal, vegetable, mineral or human - just as long as it biologically qualifies as Female, then that will do.

In fact, just a hole in a mattress would do for these sub-human parasites.

Not ok for the migrants to rape their own women but welcomed in England to rape ours

Iam64 so are you suggesting that these migrants are somehow an improvement on us indigenous people. Also it 2026. No point in looking back hundreds of years ago.

Margs

These men are not particular if it's animal, vegetable, mineral or human - just as long as it biologically qualifies as Female, then that will do.

In fact, just a hole in a mattress would do for these sub-human parasites.

Who? Men,all men?

Of course I’m not suggesting ‘these migrants are somehow an improvement on indigenous people’.
I’m reflecting on the impact of colonialism in 2026. We learn from history

So are we being colonised by these young men? Do we risk this?

Aveline

So are we being colonised by these young men? Do we risk this?

This claim has been rejected by official data , historians and political leaders.

As the asylum volume numbers are falling, it follows any perceived risk, is also falling.

At its peak in 1920 the British Empire rules over approximately 412 million to 458 million people globally. Historians estimate that Britain invaded, colonised and occupied roughly 178 out of 200 modern countries in the world, i.e. 90% of nations.

This involved multi millions of British subjects who went to colonise these countries acting as administrators, military leaders and personnel, investors, traders and seeking to establish British sovereignty over more than 4 centuries.

Only 22 countries worldwide wide were never touched by British military action or colonisation.

Aveline

So are we being colonised by these young men? Do we risk this?

Thanks LemonJam for reminding us of the extent of British Invasion and colonisation of so many countries. Many former colonies retain links with Britain, English is the second language in many countries,

Did we colonise Syria, Afghanistan, Ethiopia, Morocco, Somalia etc?

Britain colonised 90% of countries globally. As youre asking Aveline- if you google you can find the long list of countries we did and those we didn't.

Or rather more accurately only 10% of countries worldwide wide were never touched by British military action or colonisation.....

Put another way, the British Empire had the largest territorial extent and the widest global empire footprint in human history!

Neither the Spanish Empire, Russian Empire, Mongol Empire or any other empire ever has held such massive territories and none surpassed the sheer global scale and geographical spread of Britain's empire.

LemonJam

Britain colonised 90% of countries globally. As youre asking Aveline- if you google you can find the long list of countries we did and those we didn't.

But Britain did not colonise 90% of countries globally. It is an internet myth.

From AI:-
The idea that 90% of the world was colonised has become an internet myth because the word "invaded" was swapped out for "colonised" as the statistic was shared online.
For example, Britain is technically on the "invaded" list for countries like France, Spain, Iceland, Vietnam, and Iran due to various world wars, brief territorial skirmishes, or tactical interventions—but none of these nations were ever integrated into the British Empire as colonies

LemonJam

Britain colonised 90% of countries globally. As youre asking Aveline- if you google you can find the long list of countries we did and those we didn't.

You have picked out one sentence of the AI information on Britain and its colonies.

Britain colonised between 24-25% of the known world back in the day.

If you are going to use AI, maybe cut and paste all of the information…

Most of ours new invaders are from countries we didn't colonise

Tworedroses

Smileless2012

It is horrifying Primrose those poor women and what does it say about the men travelling with them .

It is horrifying. Can’t say on here what I think about those men.

Have you considered its the traffickers that take advantage.

But yes, it does feel like the "monthly migrant thread", as this news has been out for several days.

Yes, Wyllow, it does seem to be another version of those regular Threads.

Wyllow3

Tworedroses

Smileless2012

It is horrifying Primrose those poor women and what does it say about the men travelling with them .

It is horrifying. Can’t say on here what I think about those men.

Have you considered its the traffickers that take advantage.

But yes, it does feel like the "monthly migrant thread", as this news has been out for several days.

So has my post! Look at the date ….. 5 days ago when the podcast came out.

Unlike some on here I highlight current issues in the news not keep harping on about stuff from decades ago.

People who ignore history are doomed to make the same mistakes.