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Home Secretary says nearly all women who attempt to each UK in small boats are raped on their journey

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Primrose53 Mon 05-Oct-26 15:07:02

Shabana Mahmood said this in a podcast interview on The Rest Is Politics.

We know it’s only a small percentage of women who do come on these boats and presumably she knows what she is talking about but if she knows this is happening why isn’t she doing more to stop the traffickers?

All very disturbing. The chaos at Gosport yesterday with another nearly 200 arriving on a mega dinghy is also very disturbing. No wonder the townsfolk are protesting.

Casdon Sat 10-Oct-26 17:39:22

Exactly Maremia. Groundhog Day threads about ‘new’ migrant issues will no doubt continue however.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 10-Oct-26 17:43:18

Casdon

Exactly Maremia. Groundhog Day threads about ‘new’ migrant issues will no doubt continue however.

No different to multiple threads on Nigel Farage, Donald Trump, the failures of Kemi Badenoch, Israel etc. …

sundowngirl Sat 10-Oct-26 17:52:53

GrannyGravy13

Casdon

Exactly Maremia. Groundhog Day threads about ‘new’ migrant issues will no doubt continue however.

No different to multiple threads on Nigel Farage, Donald Trump, the failures of Kemi Badenoch, Israel etc. …

and yet here you are reading and posting Casdon

LemonJam Sat 10-Oct-26 17:59:07

GrannyGravy13

LemonJam

Britain colonised 90% of countries globally. As youre asking Aveline- if you google you can find the long list of countries we did and those we didn't.

You have picked out one sentence of the AI information on Britain and its colonies.

Britain colonised between 24-25% of the known world back in the day.

If you are going to use AI, maybe cut and paste all of the information…

I quickly recognised my error and corrected- "Or rather more accurately only 10% of countries worldwide wide were never touched by British military action or colonisation.....

LemonJam Sat 10-Oct-26 18:00:08

Followed by:
Put another way, the British Empire had the largest territorial extent and the widest global empire footprint in human history!

Neither the Spanish Empire, Russian Empire, Mongol Empire or any other empire ever has held such massive territories and none surpassed the sheer global scale and geographical spread of Britain's empire.

LemonJam Sat 10-Oct-26 18:02:41

I agree Britain colonised between 24-25% of the known world back in the day and carried out melter action in 65% of the world, thereby evidencing - "Or rather more accurately only 10% of countries worldwide wide were never touched by British military action or colonisation.....

LemonJam Sat 10-Oct-26 18:04:14

melter= military action

LemonJam Sat 10-Oct-26 18:05:41

Thanks for paying such close attention to my posts- much appreciated 😊

Casdon Sat 10-Oct-26 18:28:46

sundowngirl

GrannyGravy13

Casdon

Exactly Maremia. Groundhog Day threads about ‘new’ migrant issues will no doubt continue however.

No different to multiple threads on Nigel Farage, Donald Trump, the failures of Kemi Badenoch, Israel etc. …

and yet here you are reading and posting Casdon

That was a very particular type of list GrannyGravy13, you missed off Keir Starmer, Andy Burnham, the Green Party, Ed Miliband, etc for some reason, and they are the subject of threads at least as often? I think the difference is that people post about them when there is actual news, and it’s almost always different people starting the posts. Not so with threads like this, which are predictable in both frequency and content.

And yes, sundowngirl, here I am, and unrepentant at posting my thoughts.

Mamie Sat 10-Oct-26 19:03:13

It is such a shame because the podcast was so interesting and gave a great deal of insight into her views and also current Home Office strategies and possible future policies.
I don't see how anyone can have an opinion without listening to what she actually said.

Wyllow3 Sat 10-Oct-26 19:19:07

Maremia

People who ignore history are doomed to make the same mistakes.

We can't understand why people come from certain destinations and not others without the history of the area and any of our past involvements.

Maremia Sat 10-Oct-26 19:55:54

Casdon 👏

Primrose53 Sat 10-Oct-26 21:05:46

Casdon

sundowngirl

GrannyGravy13

Casdon

Exactly Maremia. Groundhog Day threads about ‘new’ migrant issues will no doubt continue however.

No different to multiple threads on Nigel Farage, Donald Trump, the failures of Kemi Badenoch, Israel etc. …

and yet here you are reading and posting Casdon

That was a very particular type of list GrannyGravy13, you missed off Keir Starmer, Andy Burnham, the Green Party, Ed Miliband, etc for some reason, and they are the subject of threads at least as often? I think the difference is that people post about them when there is actual news, and it’s almost always different people starting the posts. Not so with threads like this, which are predictable in both frequency and content.

And yes, sundowngirl, here I am, and unrepentant at posting my thoughts.

What you are claiming is not true. I assume you are aiming this at me since I started this thread.

If I read or see a report in the news about a current concern and I have time I do post about it but certainly not every time because the migrant crisis is in the news virtually every single day and whether some people like it or not, it is a huge concern for many, many British people.

Other topics concern or interest me and I also post about those.

Primrose53 Sat 10-Oct-26 21:17:37

@ Casdon

Other topics I comment or report on include health, elderly parents, care homes, colonoscopies, POA, even Corrie Street and many more! So, much as you are trying to give the impression I am focussing on the migrant issue, I am not.

Maremia Sat 10-Oct-26 21:29:44

Then, may we go back to suggestions about how to make the process safer for women and children?
If you so please?

Casdon Sat 10-Oct-26 21:42:31

Primrose53

@ Casdon

Other topics I comment or report on include health, elderly parents, care homes, colonoscopies, POA, even Corrie Street and many more! So, much as you are trying to give the impression I am focussing on the migrant issue, I am not.

You misunderstand what I meant Primrose53, which was that there are repeated thread about migrants, on a very regular basis, with nothing newsworthy or new to add. I wasn’t implying any more than that, certainly not that you or anybody else was a one trick pony.

Vintagewhine Sat 10-Oct-26 21:46:23

I listened to y the TRIP podcast and it's well worth listening to, I was impressed with SM, her comment was about 10 seconds long in a podcast that lasted for over an hour. I wonder why it was picked up when she had lots to say about her policies and position on this important subject which IMO were much more relevant. It was my impression that the traffickers were more likely to be the abusers and the migrants both men and women who were the abused!

Wyllow3 Sat 10-Oct-26 22:42:07

That is what I alluded to earlier, as it is on record as being very common, it's the traffickers who take advantage of the women. but people don't want to believe that, yet to me its all too obvious, they wield so much power.

"Human traffickers, smugglers, and criminal gangs are major perpetrators of sexual violence against women seeking passage or being trafficked, according to extensive research by international bodies like the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC) and human rights organisations.

While the exact perpetrator varies based on the nature of the journey—distinguishing between human smuggling (voluntary but dangerous passage) and human trafficking (exploitation through force or deception)—women on these routes face extraordinary risks of sexual assault."

Vintagewhine Sun 11-Oct-26 08:19:14

They are criminals making huge amounts of money out of people's misery and desperation. This is why we need proper legal routes that we have control rather than the people traffickers .

Maremia Sun 11-Oct-26 08:29:38

Yes, they are criminals.
Only doing it for profit.
If the profit diminishes, so will the number of boats.
Yes, one way to do this is to develop safe routes,
and so we are back to what seemed to be the point of this Thread.

LemonJam Sun 11-Oct-26 09:02:01

I’m all for posts that promote the development process f safe routes for women a skylit seekers too.

NotSpaghetti Wed 14-Oct-26 17:03:51

No I mean that is what he actually said.

NotSpaghetti Wed 14-Oct-26 17:05:58

Sorry. Out of context.
That was in reply to MT62 on 09/10/2026 08:49

NotSpaghetti Wed 14-Oct-26 17:12:19

And for the record, I'm another who actually listened to the podcast.

MT62 Sat 17-Oct-26 10:54:01

Aveline

Did we colonise Syria, Afghanistan, Ethiopia, Morocco, Somalia etc?

I don’t know any of these countries that would allow the British to turn up on the beaches, be taken in. housed, fed & given an allowance.
Allowed to build massive churches.
Have our religious beliefs out in the open.
Wear our own clothes, without covering from head to foot.
Live a gay life!
It just wouldn’t happen.
My point also is, compared to France, we aren’t that particularly a huge country.
Some one said on here, or another thread- but it’s only amounts to one percent! But it’s not going to stay like that forever is it.