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What reform if any is needed in relation to Crown Estate Property? Subletting of royal properties currently in the news.....

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LemonJam Sun 07-Jun-26 11:36:28

Dr Craig Prescott, a specialist in UK constitutional law at Royal Holloway, University of London, said from a property law perspective it was perfectly normal to get a lease on an estate and then sublet different parts of it. However, when it came to royalty, perception was key.

“The perception is of people living in massive palaces or properties, and the concern is that they’re getting a very good deal or, worse, making money from it,” Prescott said. The fact it was a crown estate property led to “more scrutiny” because its profits go to the Treasury, he said, adding that Mountbatten-Windsor had paid £7.5m upfront at the start of his lease.

The royal household manages and maintains the land and buildings in the occupied royal palaces estate through the sovereign grant. The occupied palaces are not owned by the monarch, but held “in the right of the crown” in trust for the nation, and include official residences such as Buckingham Palace, Windsor Castle, St James’s Palace, Clarence House and Kensington Palace.

The royal household generates rental income to help support the monarch in official duties by charging for residential properties within the occupied royal palaces estate, which amounted to £3.6m in 2024-25. As of May 2026, the royal household had 255 properties available for use within the occupied palaces. Before 2011, the Department for Culture, Media and Sport was accountable to parliament for their upkeep, and delegated responsibility to the royal household in return for an annual grant.

Under David Cameron, the Sovereign Grant Act removed the responsibility of the secretary of state so that in future the properties would be maintained by the monarch out of the grant.

Prescott said: “The problem is essentially of perception here. That all this is so complicated and difficult to explain and understand; what is public and what is private is really quite a complex question at times. The reality is hidden behind all this complexity and that doesn’t help for public understanding.”

Cossy Sun 07-Jun-26 11:50:11

Honestly, I think our Royals own far too much property in the UK!

In my opinion, only one “professional” working property is needed for the King etc to receive dignitaries and work from, ie Buckingham Palace, along with all its traditional, then one residential home for each working royal and their families.

Nothing should be sublet to earn themselves more cash.

All remaining properties should be let to ordinary people on long safe leases.

All those flats etc in the mall, Kensington Palace etc shouldn’t be “grace and favour” additional homes for anyone!

Places like Windsor Castle can be opened to the public, as I understand it is already, and a few reception rooms and the kitchen can be used for Royal events and then rented out for other paid events by professional organisations.

I’m sure we, or the National Trust, can easily make use of all the other properties left empty half the year.

Just saying….

AGAA4 Sun 07-Jun-26 12:00:26

I don't want to lose the Royal family but they have far too much wealth. The king and queen and the immediate heirs should be maintained but they own so much property and gain income from it.
I would like to see their wealth vastly reduced in future.

Aveline Sun 07-Jun-26 12:00:57

Oh for goodness sake. What a miserable perspective to take. Look what fun they have in communist countries...oh wait..

fancythat Sun 07-Jun-26 12:06:06

My opinion, for what it is worth on a subject like this is, keep things as they were say on the 90s.

If it wasnt broke in say 1990, then dont change things now.

62Granny Sun 07-Jun-26 12:09:04

As Dr.Prescott said too complicated to understand, as is everything about the government and the traditions that surround the Royal Family.
We are Nation who doesn't like change but are our laws and traditions are antiquated. No government is going to change thing, it would take a lifetime and probably be just as complicated at the end.

Cossy Sun 07-Jun-26 12:09:06

Aveline

Oh for goodness sake. What a miserable perspective to take. Look what fun they have in communist countries...oh wait..

Are we a bit too “bah humbug”?

It’s not like I’ve said lock ‘em up in the tower and off with their heads 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Cossy Sun 07-Jun-26 12:10:28

fancythat

My opinion, for what it is worth on a subject like this is, keep things as they were say on the 90s.

If it wasnt broke in say 1990, then dont change things now.

You mean you’re ok with all the non-working royals having free lovely apartments for their own personal use in London?

Sorry to disagree, but I’m not!

SueDonim Sun 07-Jun-26 12:10:31

I don’t think I’d want to live in a drafty old palace overrun with mice, which I gather is the case with Buckingham Palace! I do think the RF need other bases, too, it’s not all about London.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 07-Jun-26 12:13:41

The royal firm is gradually being slimmed down, and rightly so.

Prince William has already made changes in the Duchy of Cornwall, and will continue to do so.

I am a royalist and happy to see the changes being implemented by the royals themselves, we shall by the next King have a modern royal family suited to the 21st century.

winterwhite Sun 07-Jun-26 12:14:35

Would it be simplest for them all to pay inheritance tax. I hope council tax and where relevant business rates are paid on all these properties.

Anniebach Sun 07-Jun-26 12:14:47

AGAA4 who should have their wealth reduce, Anne, the Edinburghs?

AGAA4 Sun 07-Jun-26 12:16:58

Anniebach

AGAA4 who should have their wealth reduce, Anne, the Edinburghs?

All of them.

M0nica Sun 07-Jun-26 12:43:52

There is an awful lot of misinformation going round on this subject

To begin with AMW paid £7.5 million for the lease on the Royal Lodge, that included money on repairs. That is the same land tenure as millions of people in this country. Leasehold tenure means you can act as if you own the property, are responsible for all repairs, but have to pay for another lease or hand it back in good order when the lease expires. This means that AMW was quite free to rent out the cottages to people, who I understood were employees or ex-employees.

The Crown Estate is a vast, independent commercial property and land portfolio in the UK. While technically owned by the reigning monarch "in right of the Crown," it is not their private property. Instead, it is managed by an independent board of commissioners, with all net profits going directly to the UK Treasury to benefit the public.

Various members of the RF do own private properties but their ownership and management are an entirely personal matter. Sandringham and Balmoral properties owned by the king as a private individual. The five largest property owning individuals in this country are: Duke of Bucleugh, Anders Holch Povlsen, Duke of Westminster, Duchy of Cornwall, Earl of Lonsdale. This list was drawn up before the Elizabeth II died. She was the 19th person on the list. James Dyson is the 13th largest personal land owner. The top 3 landowners are: The Forestry Commission. National Trust and Ministry of Defence.
tlio.org.uk/the-uks-50-biggest-landowners-revealed-lovemoney-com/

As I understand all the Royals pay a market rent or have bought a lease and the King pays the rent for AMW's daughters.

I think the whole thing is a storm in an eggcup to play to the current fashion for denigrating the RF. I am no flag waving royalist, but I like to know the facts before I jump on a band wagon and sing. The facts here seem to be perfectly normal for how house tenure, whether leasehold or rented works in this country.

Anniebach Sun 07-Jun-26 12:52:02

Anne and Edward were given their family homes as wedding presents

Samwam Sun 07-Jun-26 12:55:41

"The British taxpayer does not owe palatial homes to Charles's extended family. Why are we making homes available at huge discounts to Andrew's daughters, or the late Queen's cousins?"

"Charles and William are billionaires, avoiding inheritance and other taxes, taking personal incomes from public property portfolios in excess of £50m a year. The royals can pay for their own homes."

"The Crown Estate and royal palace property portfolio is state property. It should all be used for the benefit of the public, not the private enrichment of the royals."

"The NAO's report raises far more questions than it answers. MPs need to seize this moment to push for radical reform, including removing all royals but the monarch from publicly owned accommodation."