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So, we are sanctioning Israel - who should be one of our best allies, and the EU have put up a totally offensive statue of Trump, our other great ally.

(10 Posts)
FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 08-Oct-26 10:17:23

I just don’t understand the mentality of those who govern us.
Beyond incredible.
Whatever happened to diplomacy?

Now it’s all poke the bear.

AGAA4 Thu 08-Oct-26 10:28:50

Trump is a great ally? In what way?

Do you agree with what Israel is doing on the west bank?

Cossy Thu 08-Oct-26 10:37:11

I’m so sorry, but I cannot agree that either Israel or USA are currently our “best allies”.

Each to their own though.

Israel need to stop, right now, destroying an entire country.

Trump is a complete madman.

Cossy Thu 08-Oct-26 10:41:14

AI

“ A controversial, naked statue of Donald Trump coated in 23-karat gold leaf has been unveiled inside the European Parliament building in Strasbourg, France.
Titled "The Orange Plague" (and alternatively known as the "King of Injustice"), the 2.5-metre (8.5-foot) tall satirical installation is the work of well-known Danish sculptor Jens Galschiøt.

Key Details of the Statue

• The Imagery: The sculpture depicts a entirely nude Donald Trump holding a comically large golf club and a world-shaped ball in one hand, balanced by a set of scales in the other. He is shown perched on the shoulders of a much smaller, frail, and sinking man.
• The Message: Inscribed on a plaque at the base of the statue is a satirical pledge:"I am sitting on the back of a man. He is sinking under my burden. I will do anything to help him. Except stepping down from his back. – The King of Injustice."
• The Intent: Galschiøt framed the artwork as a "satirical outcry" against the volatility of American foreign and green policies. The artist explicitly noted that Trump represents an obstacle to global efforts to address the climate crisis and the rules-based international order.

Exhibition Context

The piece was installed at one of the parliament's busiest intersections connecting two central buildings. It was brought to the venue via an invitation from Per Clausen, a left-wing Danish Member of the European Parliament (MEP), who defended the display as a test of political thick-skinnedness on the world stage. According to reports from CNN and Euronews, the short-term exhibition is scheduled to remain in place through Thursday.”

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Thu 08-Oct-26 10:43:14

We rely heavily on intel from Israel and Trump, like it or not has bases here in the UK and IS an ally, no matter what the present UK government are trying to unravel. The USA is a super power. We dismiss our friends with impunity these days it seems.

Which is why Burnham is cosying up to the EU. Yes, the ones who have all had to be cajoled by Trump to up their defence budgets. Which they are very grudgingly doing and it’ll take years (2030 and beyond, to reach 5% of GDP).

Madness Burnham and Milliband, just so reckless. I cannot believe we are being so foolish.

eazybee Thu 08-Oct-26 10:46:18

Those are my thoughts exactly, Fried Green Tomatoes. I was listening to News items this morning discussing the reduction of staff and services in the Consulate in Israel, Miliband's poor handling of his meting meeting with Iran and that offensive sculpture of Trump and wondering whatever happened to diplomacy.
Some politicians seem to allow their personal opinions to guide their actions without considering the use of diplomatic skills first to avoid or postpone direct confrontation.
Trump controls NATO and we may need to rely on him.
We have very little defence of our own, despite promises.

paddyann54 Thu 08-Oct-26 10:57:11

FGT so you’re happy to watch innocent people bombed daily ,homes destroyed olive groves burned ,children shot in the head?
I know October 7th is getting the blame for this but the abhorrent treatment of Palestinians started with the Nakba and continued year after year after year ever since .
There is NO excuse for this and Netanyahu and his vile IDF must be stopped.
As for Trump

Sago Thu 08-Oct-26 10:58:10

In the UK and Ireland we have a rising population of young fit fighting age man and they are not British/Irish.
Their numbers now outnumber our Military

We don’t know where they are from, who they are and in many cases where they are.

Every day more and more arrive.

I have no doubt that they will eventually organise themselves, we will then have an alien army we have fed, housed, clothed and educated.

When that day happens who will you put your trust in?
Or are you feeding the crocodile in the hope it eats you last.

Aveline Thu 08-Oct-26 10:59:02

paddyann54 fully agree

Whitewavemark2 Thu 08-Oct-26 11:03:24

Art has always been used to criticise, praise or satarise politicians. If Trump cant cope with it. he needs to get over himself.

Sanctions are used to show disapproval of another governments actions, it is a democratic action.