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CariGransnet (GNHQ) Wed 06-Feb-13 09:15:03

Saw this and thought of you (and us!)

www.guardian.co.uk/teacher-network/teacher-blog/quiz/2013/feb/04/grammar-punctuation-quiz-test?CMP=twt_gu

gracesmum Wed 06-Feb-13 17:25:32

Is ########################the new must have?

Ana Wed 06-Feb-13 17:26:45

Yes. But only one at a time wink

gracesmum Wed 06-Feb-13 17:28:35

Right
#enlightenedthankyou smile

Galen Wed 06-Feb-13 17:34:17

Why#?

gracesmum Wed 06-Feb-13 17:36:56

I wondered that, just thought I was missing something. But harmless decoration eh? I'm assuming it's a bit Twitterish?
I suppose it could also be shorthand for making a bit of a # of something?grin

Bags Wed 06-Feb-13 18:06:30

Yes, graces, Tweeple use #es smile #Ithinkit'sfunAbsentthinksit'stiresome

Anne58 Wed 06-Feb-13 18:15:20

There was an article in todays Telegraph about a teacher trying to get pupils in Teesside writing in "proper" English as opposed to using dialect.

One example given was instead of "Gizit'ere" pupils should say "Please give me it"

I was rather shock

Nelliemoser Wed 06-Feb-13 18:48:36

9 out of 14. [embarrased] but what I would say is that this test seems to just be about understanding "grammatical terminology" which is not the same as being able to write grammatically.

Having made many posts, I don't think I make too many grammatical errors, which has to be more important I hope!
I would be interested to know if anybody can be bothered to check stuff I have written.

Lilygran Wed 06-Feb-13 18:53:47

If you can do this kind of exercise all it means is that you've learned some rules like learning tables in maths. You don't have to know what the thing is called to use it properly. It's a bit like faith and ethicssunshine

absent Wed 06-Feb-13 19:15:08

No one asked to differentiate between a gerund and verbal noun, not to mention the gerundive. grin Lot of old rubbish really. grin

gracesmum Wed 06-Feb-13 19:15:40

That's deep, Lilygran!
I don't necessarily disagree but remember being abolutely gobsmacked when an otherwise intelligent Sixth former in my A- level German class asked in all seriousness, "But what exactly is a verb Mrs Gracesmum?"

Nelliemoser Wed 06-Feb-13 19:28:21

That emoticon should have been blush. Not a wrongly spelt embarrassed. Double blush

Anne58 Wed 06-Feb-13 19:40:00

Lilygran , as evry fule nose, Ethics is a county in the South Eatht

absent Wed 06-Feb-13 19:40:07

Bags absent is a fairly grumpy old woman most of the time, but not invariably. grin grin grin grin

MiceElf Wed 06-Feb-13 20:10:39

I feel [smug], but then I'm a sad soul.

NfkDumpling Wed 06-Feb-13 21:05:56

11 . I've never heard of a gerund either and didn't know how to tell the 'active' one. Got careless for the preposition - but I knew it really. I'll try it again tomorrow by which time I'll have forgotten the questions.

Galen Wed 06-Feb-13 21:13:02

Ditto

j08 Wed 06-Feb-13 21:26:42

NellieMoser Lol grin

Lilygran Wed 06-Feb-13 21:41:29

Oh, phoenix you fiery creature!

Sel Wed 06-Feb-13 21:58:38

Crikey, how old are we? My Mum would have loved this grin My progress in life has never suffered from a lack of knowledge of the deepest, darkest recesses of the rules of English grammar. In the US, some forty States no longer teach pupils how to write but they teach keyboard skills. If you think about it, when did you last write anything by hand?

This seems archaic. Teach kids to read but not this.

Ariadne Wed 06-Feb-13 22:06:11

Don't think it's passive, Bags, but I agree that the subordinate clause is conditional, for which English uses a residual subjunctive. Brain now hurting, off to bed. In a minute. moon

j08 Wed 06-Feb-13 22:06:28

It's just a rubbish article. It starts off talking about testing year 6 children (11 year olds?) and then goes on to say "Take our quiz for students, teachers and grammar fans". confused

Who is it supposed to be aimed at? confused

gracesmum Wed 06-Feb-13 22:09:30

Whether or not you write it by hand is not the point though is it? it's what you write and whether using Times New Roman on an an iPad or "joined up writing" with a quill pen if it's right it's right and if it's wrong, it's not!

gracesmum Wed 06-Feb-13 22:10:56

Sorry - this was in answer to Sel's comment - bit of a time lag here!

Sel Wed 06-Feb-13 22:30:07

gracesmum I appreciate it's what you write that matters but, actually communication is what matters. It evolves. The rules of English Grammar, at this level, matter not a jot in the wider world. I have many emails from people for whom English is not their first language - as long as I can understand the meaning that's fine, I don't 'mark' them.

For many people speed is of the essence - my style of writing has changed beyond recognition - from the days of learning the 'correct' salutations and endings' in a typed letter to the emails of today.

I would personally hate children to go through the English Grammar torture I went through and would much prefer they learnt a love of reading.

I did score highly but my point is, so what?