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Anachronisms!

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Greatnan Fri 08-Feb-13 08:29:57

I watch old episodes of Heartbeat early in the morning. I love it, but sometimes they use phrases which would certainly not have been used in the 1960s - young script writers? Today, they said 'harass', with the wrong pronunciation, and I don't remember anybody outside a courtroom using that at that period, and certainly not with the stress on the last syllable.
This sets my teeth on edge in most period dramas too. More research, please, writers!

janeainsworth Fri 08-Feb-13 10:52:55

Bags wrote:
"Look it up in a dictionary, is what I meant"

Must confess I only consulted Wikipedia blush

Thank yougrin

Bags Fri 08-Feb-13 11:16:00

I learned something too, jane. Going to do some research about cross-bow terminology now. smile #lovegransnettalk

annodomini Fri 08-Feb-13 11:24:11

Never mind period dramas; what about all the sparkling white teeth in soaps? Would all those characters have the cash to have their gnashers bleached?

Ana Fri 08-Feb-13 12:07:08

I have raised this point in the past, anno - it really grates with me, too!

gracesmum Fri 08-Feb-13 12:48:02

Phrases like "learning curve" seemed anachronistic in Downton Abbey.

Bags Fri 08-Feb-13 12:55:55

Brecht would despair at our insistence on keeping up the illusion!

gracesmum Fri 08-Feb-13 13:30:17

It can work well on the stage as long as it is deliberate, but I don't think his Verfremdungseffekt is all that common on ITV (or even Beeb4)

feetlebaum Fri 08-Feb-13 14:12:20

I shall continue with 'harass and 'harassment... probably while wearing a 'Harris tweed jacket!

Greatnan Sat 09-Feb-13 07:57:27

I will also continue to be harassed as though I were being wrapped in Harris Tweed!

Deedaa Sun 10-Feb-13 21:24:22

And what about the womens' make up? I've seen so many period dramas where the men wear accurate costumes and have the correct hair styles, and then in comes the heroine with hair and makeup straight off the catwalk. Exhibit Number One - The Tudors. I believe that Sophia Loren was notorious for always appearing as herself no matter what period the film was set in. But I suppose if you looked like her why would you want to change?

grumppa Mon 11-Feb-13 13:14:11

Don't get me started on kilometre with the stress on the second syllable. Nobody pronounces millimetre or centimetre like that. I wonder if there is confusion with words ending in meter in the sense of measure, like odometer, speedometer, etc. Or a throwback to gasometers?

I hadn't thought about the stress on a syllable containing a double letter before, but mistress and related words (temptress, seamstress, etc.) seem to disprove the rule rather as windlass does.

Talking of which, according to my SOD there are two different meanings for windlass with two different derivations, but I'll stop here.

Except to suggest, Gracesmum, that Brecht himself tended to abandon his Verfremdungseffekt in his best works, which are often the better for it.

annodomini Mon 11-Feb-13 14:07:23

Thank you, grumppa. My thoughts exactly. I always say kilometre with the stress on the third syllable, the same way as everyone says centimetre.

Greatnan Mon 11-Feb-13 15:28:36

I live in France, so I pronounce it the way my neighbours do - keel - 0 - met.
Similarly, keel - o -gram.

grrrranny Mon 11-Feb-13 15:48:18

greatnan I thought you would be thousands of kil-o-mets away by now. Must be later in the week then.

Greatnan Mon 11-Feb-13 15:50:44

I am sitting next to Juragran in Switzerland - tomorrow she will take me to the station to catch the train to Geneva airport, for the first leg of my 40-hour journey - Heathrow, Singapore, Auckland, Nelson. I will arrive on Thursday evening, local time, exhausted but happy!

grrrranny Mon 11-Feb-13 15:55:52

Ah - I heard a couple of hours ago that Geneva airport is open again so all should be well for your trip. Exciting.

Greatnan Mon 11-Feb-13 15:58:19

Thanks very much - I didn't know it had been closed - the Swiss are usually so efficient! It is always the London end that worries me.

whenim64 Mon 11-Feb-13 16:26:44

Have a wonderful time Greatnan. Don't forget to tell us all about what you are doing and where you have visited. smile

Greatnan Mon 11-Feb-13 16:42:23

Wilco, When, and my photos will be on my Facebook page.