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grammar question

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TriciaF Fri 17-Jul-15 11:55:38

about the verb to swim.
Is it correct to say "we've swum in that lake".
Or is it "we've swam " " " ."
I wrote "swum" first, it looked strange, so I changed it to "we've been swimming etc."

mrsmopp Sun 19-Jul-15 22:11:13

Shysal, it is different from and similar to.
Hope that helps.

MamaCaz Sun 19-Jul-15 21:53:51

And I hate it when people say drawring.

Balini Sun 19-Jul-15 21:37:11

I hate, when I hear English people, saying "us house" instead of "our house" or similar, when they are being interviewed on TV.

Jane10 Sun 19-Jul-15 21:27:15

Oh good. I'd always thought it was 'from' but 'to' seems to be everywhere.

janerowena Sun 19-Jul-15 21:24:14

From, every time for me, but as far as I am aware there is nothing wrong with 'to', it's just considered a bit clumsy.

shysal Sun 19-Jul-15 21:21:39

I would like guidance on when to use 'different from' and 'different to'. I tend to use from, but it that wrong in some cases?

janerowena Sun 19-Jul-15 21:12:50

I use pled and I'm not even Scottish - is it allowed? grin

Ana Sun 19-Jul-15 19:53:57

I think Scottish GNs would disagree with you, mrsmopp!

mrsmopp Sun 19-Jul-15 19:51:18

Watched an American court case on TV and the accused 'pled' not guilty.
Is this an Americanism? Wouldn't we say he pleaded not guilty?
Pled sounded completely wrong to me.

MrsBoot Sun 19-Jul-15 18:21:39

As well as 'bored of', another particular bugbear of mine is the use of appraised (estimating value of something / someone) instead of apprised (informing). I've just come across an example of this in a highly rated book I'm reading - presumably the proofreader didn't notice!

Beattie Sun 19-Jul-15 13:28:45

Another cause of raised blood pressure is the way everyone puts themselves first in a conversation! 'Me and ?' It seems almost universal now, when I grew up I was taught to always put the other person before myself. Ah me!!!!!!

Falconbird Sun 19-Jul-15 07:32:56

TriciaF - That's great - a neat way out of this is to say "we've been swimming." smile

I get irritated also by "we were sat" and "we were stood."

Sat and stood implies that someone sat you there or stood you there. confused

Jomarie Sat 18-Jul-15 22:38:19

I know it's not "correct" (politically or otherwise) but I do find it hard to listen to people in the public domain who cannot pronounce their "R's". I manage because it's not their fault etc. but it still grates. On the other hand the episode in Only fools and horses with Raquel singing with (whoever) the Gween gween gwass of home was absolutely hilarious. I'm sure I will be pilloried for this post by all the righteous minded persons on here and I apologise absolutely, but it still makes me smile even thinking about it!!!!grin

Jomarie Sat 18-Jul-15 22:34:33

Nfk = love it!! grin

NfkDumpling Sat 18-Jul-15 21:58:56

My bugbear is the increasing popularity of ashume and conshume. I'm waiting to hear conshumpshun or ashumpshun!

Jomarie Sat 18-Jul-15 21:49:15

It's the substitution of "of" instead of "with" which really gets my goat. As for pronunciation of a word, I still do what my mother did - look it up in the Pitman's shorthand dictionary - her bible! This gives the vowel placings as well as the firmness or lightness of the vowel - against the consonants and thus tells you how it was pronounced in the Queen's English in days gone by - which is good enough for me. Many changes have taken place I should say. I realise that this is only useful for those of us who pursued a secretarial career back in the day but hey ho - somebody had to do it! grin wine

Evedmh Sat 18-Jul-15 21:26:31

"Bored of" seems to be quite an English thing. I haven't heard it used here in NZ..........yet! it'll happen though, I'm sure. Bad grammar trends seem to be very infectious.

AshTree Sat 18-Jul-15 19:36:34

One of my big bugbears is hearing nauseous pronounced 'naushus', which I imagine is an American import angry

Ana Sat 18-Jul-15 19:13:41

I was thinking that myself, Jane. Just stopped myself from complaining about the way 'fifth' is so often pronounced 'fith' these days for that very reason! grin

Jane10 Sat 18-Jul-15 19:11:06

Hoi pedants- word pronunciation is not a grammar issue! Sorry -being pedantic!

Elrel Sat 18-Jul-15 17:30:49

Just heard another, frequent minor irritation on R4. Someone being interviewed for his opinion re calories on menus said 'restauraNteur'.

durhamjen Sat 18-Jul-15 14:19:51

In Hull they say that 'ull begins with haitch.

janerowena Sat 18-Jul-15 13:58:21

Saying 'haitch' is a regional dialect thing though, so where do you draw the line? Who's to say which dialect is the correct version? I do try to look things up before I criticise, after something sounds odd to my ears.

'Should of' drives me mad, too.

Anya Sat 18-Jul-15 13:52:57

mummsymags you and me both!

Even some TV presenters say 'haitch' drives me bonkers

Elrel Sat 18-Jul-15 12:55:45

Maybe when texting you can convert your son to 'could've'. Actually I guess not as it needs a change of screen ...