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TriciaF Fri 17-Jul-15 11:55:38

about the verb to swim.
Is it correct to say "we've swum in that lake".
Or is it "we've swam " " " ."
I wrote "swum" first, it looked strange, so I changed it to "we've been swimming etc."

grannyisland Mon 20-Jul-15 20:51:14

My pronunciation bugbear - more and more often announcers referring to a serious instead of series!

Jane10 Mon 20-Jul-15 21:19:06

"You can have a cup of coffee but you may not" is what my old teacher used to say. Think she'd combust if she heard all this "can I get" stuff!

Penstemmon Mon 20-Jul-15 21:46:01

I have heard one brave barrista reply to a bemused customer, ' No it's OK I will get it for you' grin

mummsymags Tue 21-Jul-15 13:56:39

WONDERFUL!!
Thanks GNs I don't feel so alone.

'Do you have' not 'Have you got'
Comprises not comprises of......yes, thank you, it drives me crazy too
Regional/cultural pronunciation is fine but when everyone starts doing it, I object....it's aitch (H) not haitch.
Different from.....(aaah not just me, then)

Still no clear rule for 'which' and 'that' - come on all you retired English Grammar teachers.......

Zengran Tue 21-Jul-15 14:36:25

Just a small addition to this thread. Why have presenters started saying "crate" instead of "crEate"? Is it my hearing?

shysal Tue 21-Jul-15 14:54:07

And pence are not 'pee'!

Alea Tue 21-Jul-15 14:55:09

Further to pronunciation ("nucular" etc) has anybody listened to the announcements at the taxi level of Euston Station?
"Please do not take luggage on the escUlator, customers are advised to use the lifts."

angry

thatbags Tue 21-Jul-15 15:25:18

Is that esc-you-lator, alea, or esc-u-lator, where the u in the second is a northern vowel sound as in mug?

thatbags Tue 21-Jul-15 15:29:56

I understand the which or that rule to be that if what comes before it is a complete sentence without what follows, then you use which.

e.g. I own this broomstick, which I'm about to fly on to the next gransnet party.

The broomstick that I enjoy flying on the most is over there.

MiniMouse Tue 21-Jul-15 16:03:20

What about 'tor' instead of 'too-er' for 'tour'? (Not bad grammar, but I'm in Rant Mode!)

Ana Tue 21-Jul-15 16:06:28

I say 'tor'. I also call the Yorkshire Moors the Yorkshire 'Mors'.

I don't care! grin

GrandmaMia1 Tue 21-Jul-15 16:10:13

My pet hate is the incorrect usage of practice and practise, noun and verb. I pointed the difference to my childrens teacher a number of years ago, she asked if it really mattered. Grrrr.
As well as that..... 'Aswell' also winds me up.

rosesarered Tue 21-Jul-15 16:11:35

You rebel you!grin

rosesarered Tue 21-Jul-15 16:13:01

Everyone knows it's the Yorkshire mours.

rosesarered Tue 21-Jul-15 16:13:39

My iPad tried to change it to amours!

rosesarered Tue 21-Jul-15 16:14:14

Which is just for Cathy and Heathcliffe.

Anya Tue 21-Jul-15 16:19:23

GrandmaMia I used to teach my Y6 the difference by pointing out that 'ice' is a noun so practICE is the noun and therefore practISE is the verb.

KatyK Tue 21-Jul-15 16:20:34

Most of the above drive me mad blush I was in town this morning and I heard a mum say to her son 'stop egnoring me when I am speaking to you'. That's quite a common one around these parts. Good job I'm perfect that's all I can say. grin

Purpledaffodil Tue 21-Jul-15 21:16:21

So pleased to see the 'bored of' horror debated. I have this argument on a weekly basis with DD who is a grammar Nazi on most things, but refuses to,accept that it should be 'bored with'.
Good mnemonic Anya. I used to teach that if you can put 'nice' in front of it then 'practice' is needed. Probably because I usually taught younger children who would get parts of speech names confused. grin

Elrel Wed 22-Jul-15 00:16:50

'As well' I've yet to see but I seem to fight a losing battle to keep 'all right' rather than 'alright'. Maybe it doesn't much matter.
In fact where I live 'Awright?' seems to be the greeting of choice. The response is, of course 'Awright?'.
Should someone be offered, for example, a cup of tea and not want one all too often the response is 'I'm all right' instead of 'No thank you'.

Recently I find myself spelling out double letters 'ess, ess'instead of saying 'double s' as I've often had people on the phone mistake w for any double letter and spell a word back to me as, for instance 'a,w,se,w,s' for assess.

Anya Wed 22-Jul-15 06:19:37

You'll have to use the phonetic alphabet Eirel because my real name contains several letter 'F's this is often misheard on the telephone as 'S' so I tried saying 'Foxtrot' instead.

You learn a lot about the person on the other end of the 'phone that way. I've had several 'yer whats?'

Another bug bear, and I've had it even from TP students, is 'a lot' written as 'alot' and one who even tried to tell me thst it was 'awright' to write it that way. And these will be teaching our youngsters shock

MiniMouse Wed 22-Jul-15 07:48:54

Ana grin I say 'mors' too, but the spelling of 'tour' is different! Perhaps it's a dialect thing?

thatbags Wed 22-Jul-15 07:53:05

I wonder if 'always' and 'allright' were frowned upon in the same way when they were first used. Possibly not. I think there was more leeway for inventiveness in writing when fewer people knew the 'rules'.

BTW, my Oxford and Cambridge educated school English teacher told me allright should be spelled with a double el. "Allright is the place where all is right". I often see it with only one.

I expect always was once all ways. Why isn't it all times? Hmmm...

thatbags Wed 22-Jul-15 07:54:28

Say muir if you're fussed. I say mors and I come from Yorkshire so no-one can tell me how to say Yorkshire Moors.

thatbags Wed 22-Jul-15 07:56:00

same vowel sound in york and moor. Easy.