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grammar question

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TriciaF Fri 17-Jul-15 11:55:38

about the verb to swim.
Is it correct to say "we've swum in that lake".
Or is it "we've swam " " " ."
I wrote "swum" first, it looked strange, so I changed it to "we've been swimming etc."

nannymeryl Wed 22-Jul-15 21:39:35

how come no-one has mentioned the dreaded '

I hate it when you see a sign that says potatoe's

grr

it's not difficult!!

Conni7 Wed 22-Jul-15 17:49:14

I'm always accused of being pedantic, but "could of" and "bored of" are surely the thin end of the wedge, and will become accepted if we don't shout. According to my children "different to" is now taught at University. It was "similar to" and "different from" in my day, which is surely more logical. Another irritation is the constant use of "y'know" when I don't anyway! I counted 21 from one golfer interviewed this week.

Penstemmon Wed 22-Jul-15 17:35:06

My Yorks pals say 'Oop on't Muers' wink

Anya Wed 22-Jul-15 16:27:07

Which is probably why one of my DD's pupils (secondary English) appeared convinced DD had misspelled the date on the whiteboard.

'Miss, you've put an extra 'r' in Febewry!' hmm

Ana Wed 22-Jul-15 15:59:57

February seems to have all but lost its first 'r' these days - it's nearly always pronounced 'Feb-yew-ry'...

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 22-Jul-15 15:54:51

Yes. One does. grin

KatyK Wed 22-Jul-15 15:02:30

Also things such as September 11. What happened to the 11th of September?

Grannycupcake Wed 22-Jul-15 14:47:30

Of course, jinglbellsfrocks, it's true, one does need to be in control of one's tongue, lips, and teeth.

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 22-Jul-15 14:25:32

or losing your teeth.

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 22-Jul-15 14:25:06

and you are in danger of spitting.

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 22-Jul-15 14:24:30

It's very difficult! The 'ss' and the 'xthhh' seem to go on forever!

Grannycupcake Wed 22-Jul-15 14:22:23

Why do people pronounce 6th as sickth? I know it is supposed to be acceptable but it's not that hard to pronounce the x before the th. It seems lazy to me. Jeremy Paxman even says sickth. Maybe we should call him Jeremy Packthman.

Cosafina Wed 22-Jul-15 14:17:32

I would say the English version is 'have you got' whereas the Americans say 'do you have'.

That's why when I ask an American "have you got x?" they reply with "no, I don't" because another American would have asked them "do you have x?" An Englishman would reply No, I haven't.

But that's one of my biggest bugbears - people not understanding the question tag correctly sad

annodomini Wed 22-Jul-15 09:41:49

I keep hearing reporters on news programmes saying 'amblance' or 'amb uh lance' whereas I was brought up pronouncing it as amb yew lance.

thatbags Wed 22-Jul-15 09:15:30

We call them alligators anyway.

thatbags Wed 22-Jul-15 09:13:40

grin

Alea Wed 22-Jul-15 08:24:04

I'm afraid it is * escYOUlator* , thatbags I am not not sure I would hear the difference between "escalator" and "escuhlator" in the standard station announcement delivered as it is with the nose clenched firmly between forefinger and thumb ,and the head in a bucket.

thatbags Wed 22-Jul-15 07:56:00

same vowel sound in york and moor. Easy.

thatbags Wed 22-Jul-15 07:54:28

Say muir if you're fussed. I say mors and I come from Yorkshire so no-one can tell me how to say Yorkshire Moors.

thatbags Wed 22-Jul-15 07:53:05

I wonder if 'always' and 'allright' were frowned upon in the same way when they were first used. Possibly not. I think there was more leeway for inventiveness in writing when fewer people knew the 'rules'.

BTW, my Oxford and Cambridge educated school English teacher told me allright should be spelled with a double el. "Allright is the place where all is right". I often see it with only one.

I expect always was once all ways. Why isn't it all times? Hmmm...

MiniMouse Wed 22-Jul-15 07:48:54

Ana grin I say 'mors' too, but the spelling of 'tour' is different! Perhaps it's a dialect thing?

Anya Wed 22-Jul-15 06:19:37

You'll have to use the phonetic alphabet Eirel because my real name contains several letter 'F's this is often misheard on the telephone as 'S' so I tried saying 'Foxtrot' instead.

You learn a lot about the person on the other end of the 'phone that way. I've had several 'yer whats?'

Another bug bear, and I've had it even from TP students, is 'a lot' written as 'alot' and one who even tried to tell me thst it was 'awright' to write it that way. And these will be teaching our youngsters shock

Elrel Wed 22-Jul-15 00:16:50

'As well' I've yet to see but I seem to fight a losing battle to keep 'all right' rather than 'alright'. Maybe it doesn't much matter.
In fact where I live 'Awright?' seems to be the greeting of choice. The response is, of course 'Awright?'.
Should someone be offered, for example, a cup of tea and not want one all too often the response is 'I'm all right' instead of 'No thank you'.

Recently I find myself spelling out double letters 'ess, ess'instead of saying 'double s' as I've often had people on the phone mistake w for any double letter and spell a word back to me as, for instance 'a,w,se,w,s' for assess.

Purpledaffodil Tue 21-Jul-15 21:16:21

So pleased to see the 'bored of' horror debated. I have this argument on a weekly basis with DD who is a grammar Nazi on most things, but refuses to,accept that it should be 'bored with'.
Good mnemonic Anya. I used to teach that if you can put 'nice' in front of it then 'practice' is needed. Probably because I usually taught younger children who would get parts of speech names confused. grin

KatyK Tue 21-Jul-15 16:20:34

Most of the above drive me mad blush I was in town this morning and I heard a mum say to her son 'stop egnoring me when I am speaking to you'. That's quite a common one around these parts. Good job I'm perfect that's all I can say. grin