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pronounciation of common words

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etheltbags1 Tue 08-Sept-15 19:37:44

I really hate to see commonly used words being mispronounced
Toady I had an argument about how to say Benal Madena (the spanish resort). I used to write to a relative who lived there and it was said lke it was spelt but several people have called it Bellamadena. Can anyone tell me the correct way to pronounce it.
I also live fairly near to a Matalan store and find my skin creeps to hear people shouting 'Im going to Mataland'.
Its the same with sandwich commonly pronounced saanwich, strawberry pronounced strawbry and many others .This has nothing to do with local dialect its just a lazy way of talking.

rosequartz Sun 13-Sept-15 10:30:13

Chips come in butties!! wink

trisher Sun 13-Sept-15 10:29:35

Sarnies? Sandwiches? They are Butties of course and your lunch is your 'bait'. Never mind pronunciation it's a different language up here!

Filmm is a pet hate

Went to Benalmadena years ago. Some seem to say BenalMADena others BenalmaDEEna
Think the first is the Spanish way.

rosequartz Sun 13-Sept-15 10:29:31

It's a British thing, isn't it, mispronouncing foreign names and place names.

etheltbags1 Sun 13-Sept-15 10:23:22

Indiana I have argued with three people that Benalmadena is called Bellamadena, that is why I wrote the OP, my relative called it Bellamadena and gave me her address to write to her and it was spelt Benalmadena. Two other people called it bellamadena and I argued with them. It doesn't even sound the same. This is not just a northern thing , my relative lived in the midland before moving to Spain.

rosequartz Sun 13-Sept-15 10:15:28

I had to look up schwa, am I to be drummed out?? along with me, grannylyn65 grin

Sanger is not proper English as she should be spoke
It is Australian slang for a sandwich, preferably with thick slices of white bread, a thick slab of meat of some sort [and lots of salad - optional]

Indinana Sun 13-Sept-15 10:06:58

Sanger = sandwich. Schwa is a very lightly sounded vowel, for instance the 'e' towards the end of Benalmadena. This would sound more like an 'uh' sound, hardly pronounced at all.

Indinana Sun 13-Sept-15 10:04:31

I don't see how anyone could think it's 'Bella' Madena confused. It is Benalmadena with the stress on 'mad'.

etheltbags1 Sun 13-Sept-15 10:01:43

I m lost now what is a sanger and what is a schwa.
to get to the original post just what is the correct way to pronounce Benalmadena. Is it Bella Madena or as its spelt.

grannylyn65 Fri 11-Sept-15 15:17:54

Scottish!

Bellanonna Fri 11-Sept-15 15:05:20

Daisy - Benalmadena, emphasis on the middle syllable ( the MAD) is a suburb of Torremolinos

grannylyn65 Fri 11-Sept-15 14:34:03

I had to look up schwa, am I to be drummed out??

rosequartz Fri 11-Sept-15 14:14:42

Or a sanger
(But that's in Strine, which is not the same as English)

Gerente Fri 11-Sept-15 10:44:47

Saanwich? Samwidge? It??s sangwich, as any fule kno.
?? It is impossible for an Englishman to open his mouth without making some other Englishman hate or despise him.?? (GBS. Pygmalion.)

Indinana Thu 10-Sept-15 23:14:44

Judthepud I wasn't in the least offended - my comment was intended to be jokey, mock serious. Sorry, difficult to convey this without body language smile

Daisyanswerdo Thu 10-Sept-15 23:02:32

NotTooOld, I just wanted to comment on your post about MOM. It's the American spelling - the way Americans say the short 'o' vowel, it sounds like the way we pronounce 'MUM' - doesn't it? It's what I've always thought, anyway.

Two pronunciations that irk me: kilOMetre when it should be KILometre. It's a measure, not the device that does the measuring. Also 'licquorice' pronounced 'lickerish', which is a completely different word.

Sandwich? I say 'samwidge'! (That does look odd!)

I'd never heard of Benal Madena either!

rosequartz Thu 10-Sept-15 22:47:57

That advert for the Co-op was annoying:

The Co-op is apparently 'Gud for fud'

Judthepud2 Thu 10-Sept-15 22:25:00

Indinana regarding the 'haitch' issue in relation to RC education, I was explaining a distinction which seems quite peculiar to the N.I situation. And it is very consistent here. A sad but true reflection of the way our divided society works. Schooling still tends to be mainly segregated here.

I assume you were educated in ENGLISH convent schools where Irish nuns would have been required to adhere to English standards. Please don't protest. I was just explaining what happens here thinking some GNetters would be interested. I had no intention to offend. confused

Anya Thu 10-Sept-15 21:22:10

A lot of scottish people pronounce 'food' as 'fud' - it's not being posh! To compensate they often pronounce 'foot' as 'fute' whereas the english say 'fut'.

etheltbags1 Thu 10-Sept-15 20:50:08

I cant stand when some say 'Hud' instead of 'hood' and 'fud' instead of food. this is not a regional thing its just trying to be posh.

Bellanonna Thu 10-Sept-15 19:29:00

Sarnie has become a word so needs the 'r'. If you abbreviate the word for your refrigerator, sugarpuffairy. I'm sure you call it fridge and not frig if you write it, so it takes a d in the shorter version? As for the short and long 'a' Maizie, it's just a regional thing, isn't it.

MaizieD Thu 10-Sept-15 17:16:56

The pronunciation 'ar' of the 'a' in sarnies has nothing to do with whether or not there is an 'r' in sandwiches. It's just an accent thing.

Being a Southerner living in the North of England I get this said to me from time to time when I say father, rather, glass, grass etc etc 'There's no 'r' in 'glass' they say. Well, I pronounce the 'a' as 'ar' because that's how we say it in the south...it's too late to change the habits of a lifetime grin

And who'd want to call them 'sannies'? wink

Sugarpufffairy Thu 10-Sept-15 14:31:30

Many years ago there was a mode of speech which was called "BBC English voice" It was very clear and proper so that it was easily understood by everyone especially those who were from other countries. The BBC News was used as a teaching aid to those learning English and also those learning Shorthand.
I hate a certain programme on BBC1 where the presenters talk of the comYUNal areas. I dont like Ashume either. I dont understand why people talk of Sarnies when they mean Sandwiches. There is no R in the word.
Where I stay we have a dialect and from the words and pronounciation of words people can tell which area you come from and whether you are catholic or protestants. Although I was born here and have been here most of my life there are people here whose dialect is so different I just hope that I am smiling and nodding in the correct places.
SPF

rosequartz Thu 10-Sept-15 14:29:26

A friend from the north-east pronounces it 'brakefast'

I say 'brekkfast' with a sort of short 'a', a kind of of amalgam of brekkfust and brekkfest

annodomini Thu 10-Sept-15 14:00:00

Breakfast: I grew up pronouncing it 'brekkfast', but I do hear others (a minority I think) pronouncing it 'brakefast'.

Roxannediane Thu 10-Sept-15 13:07:48

Agreed.
My very upper class English teacher of 50 years ago would constantly correct us if we dared to pronounce a word incorrectly (according to her) and our lengthy spelling lists all had to be learned both as the written and spoken word. I used to dread her lessons but soon learned she had taught me a very valuable lesson for life.
Today, incorrect spellings are not even acknowledged by teachers so how do we expect children to learn?