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pronounciation of common words

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etheltbags1 Tue 08-Sept-15 19:37:44

I really hate to see commonly used words being mispronounced
Toady I had an argument about how to say Benal Madena (the spanish resort). I used to write to a relative who lived there and it was said lke it was spelt but several people have called it Bellamadena. Can anyone tell me the correct way to pronounce it.
I also live fairly near to a Matalan store and find my skin creeps to hear people shouting 'Im going to Mataland'.
Its the same with sandwich commonly pronounced saanwich, strawberry pronounced strawbry and many others .This has nothing to do with local dialect its just a lazy way of talking.

Indinana Sun 13-Sept-15 23:05:47

We always used to laugh at Celine Dion in the song from Titanic, when she sang 'my heart will go on dan don'

rosequartz Sun 13-Sept-15 23:13:37

Jomarie which brings me to the question:P
how do you pronounce the word piste?

Presumably peeste and not pissed grin

JackyB Tue 15-Sept-15 17:02:23

Typical pop lyrics: "You make my jeams cum choo"

PenJK50 Wed 16-Sept-15 11:59:29

Our bugbear used to be our daughters pronouncing Watford (where they went to school) without the "t". So it became Wa'ford! They have now grown out of it!

helmacd Wed 16-Sept-15 12:21:19

I've come to this conversation already on the 6th page, so apologies if my quick scan has missed mention of this word already. My biggest hate is pessific for specific!
And whilst I fully confess to being a pedant, there's a really good reason for pronouncing words correctly - it helps one to spell them correctly. You only have to look in classified ads to see this; I've lost count of the number of people who are selling 'chests of draws' - wish I was a cartoonist!
I should say I have absolutely nothing against regional accents; words can still be said correctly, though with differences in intonation and stress. Lazy speech such as 'sangwidges' is just that -a disinclination to make the effort to communicate clearly and accurately!

rosequartz Wed 16-Sept-15 12:58:12

chests of draws oh yes, I've seen that helmacd

The way you have written sangwidges makes me wonder if that's why the Australians call them sangers hmm

feetlebaum Wed 16-Sept-15 13:30:42

I like sammitch for sandwich!

Bellanonna Wed 16-Sept-15 13:32:33

I wonder if we would consider " singing", "wringing" , etc lazy? Much easier to pronounce than some regional interpretations which pronounce both of the gs gutterally ? The former being correct of course and much easier to pronounce.

babcia Wed 16-Sept-15 13:58:15

My pet hate is laura norder

rosequartz Wed 16-Sept-15 14:09:29

I won't tell her babcia grin

rosequartz Wed 16-Sept-15 14:10:47

Just call them 'sarnies' and be done with it!

Mind you, sardine sarnie is always a bit difficult to pronounce.
That's why we tend to have sardines on toast.

Gagamarnie Wed 16-Sept-15 17:09:06

Sad pedant that I am, I get really annoyed about the use of "wonder" and "wander" and "draw" and "drawer". Another thing that annoys me is having no space between "a lot", e.g. "I enjoyed that alot."

There used to be a presenter on a TV programme where people were looking for a new home (Escape to the Country??), and she always told them to "Go and WONDER around". I could imagine them saying Oohs and Aahs in response! In my experience, it appears that many people have not had good English language teachers in the past. I've known many teachers who make basic errors in spoken and written English - even at high managerial levels in education. Bring back grammar schools I say! And another thing..... I WONDER whether "textspeak" will change the way we spell in future....and another another thing, what about the apostrophe? That's food for another forum or two!

rosequartz Wed 16-Sept-15 17:13:41

Don't get me started on apostrophes! wink

Ana Wed 16-Sept-15 17:17:54

How are you supposed to pronounce 'wander' then Gagamarnie?

I say 'wonder' too (to rhyme with 'yonder').

Surely you don't mean it should be 'wander' to rhyme with 'gander'? confused

Ana Wed 16-Sept-15 17:19:27

Oh - do you mean she pronunced it 'wunder'?

rosequartz Wed 16-Sept-15 17:42:36

I love to go a-wundering
Along the mountain track

I wonder as I wunder .....

I wundered lonely as a cloud

Or

Wunderbar, wunderbar!
There's our favorite star above
What a bright, shining star
Like our love it's wunderbar!

etc etc

MamaCaz Fri 18-Sept-15 19:42:49

Wonder and wander annoy me too. It's all too common now to hear their respective pronunciations reversed!

Poggle Sun 20-Sept-15 10:15:10

I agree, H has the harder sound.

Bellanonna Sun 20-Sept-15 10:22:06

poggie. I don't get that

Another frequent mispronunciation is island for Ireland. Not too difficult to say, surely ?

Bellanonna Sun 20-Sept-15 10:23:12

Should be Poggle. Sorry. Need new reading glasses. Primark, here I come

hildajenniJ Sun 20-Sept-15 10:36:08

Prof. Henry Higgins asked, "why can't the English teach their children how to speak". I had an awful job getting my DD to use then and than correctly. She still confuses them, eg. " rather you then me". I have learned not to let it bother me, but I do feel like a bit of a failure.

Wilf Mon 21-Sept-15 11:43:14

Dear Mary Berry - wild animals live in "lairs", cakes have "LAYERS" ... with a Y! Last week I was actually yelling at the TV by the end of the programme!

Ana Mon 21-Sept-15 11:44:55

Yes, that drives me mad too Wilf! grin

Helena1 Mon 21-Sept-15 12:22:31

And surely it should be e.g. '...he scored 6 for his starter during the week' not '...he scored 6 for his starter in the week' as I've heard so often on The Great British Menu lately?

feetlebaum Mon 21-Sept-15 12:38:55

Wander - rhymes with "yonder", wonder rhymes with "thunder"...

@Gagamarnie : I would agree with you about Grammar Schools, but must confess that at mine nobody ever mentioned the "it's" v. "its" problem. I was in my twenties before somebody straightened me out on that one. So much for Grammar school!

"It's a cat, and its fur is black."