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Past tenses

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Elegran Mon 21-Sept-15 12:34:20

He strives (present)
He strove (in the past and has possibly stopped striving)
He has striven (in the past and is possibly still striving)

Never "he strived" without the "has" (false and ungrammatical past tense - but hey ho, false and ungrammatical constructions are proliferating, so it could be the definitive past tense this time next year)

feetlebaum Mon 21-Sept-15 12:30:39

PS and a third - "I had striven..."

feetlebaum Mon 21-Sept-15 12:30:08

Two different tenses - "I strove...", but "I have striven..."

I quite like sounding archaic at times - "five-and-twenty to the hour" for example, which was how it was said in my family, sounds that little bit more elegant than "twenty-five to..."

soontobe Mon 21-Sept-15 12:24:58

strove

What do I know!

MaizieD Mon 21-Sept-15 12:24:02

Good suggestion, Alea. Or, 'tried hard'.

Though I worry a bit that using simple, frequently used, words instead of older, less familiar, words diminishes the richness and variety of the English language and makes older writings very inaccessible to people.

Not that I am in any way an advocate of convoluted language just for the sake of it. There's a fine line to be drawn somewhere.

I would use 'strove'

Alea Mon 21-Sept-15 12:22:24

Just applying The Alea Law of Minimum Effort. grin

janerowena Mon 21-Sept-15 12:14:12

'Strove' sounds as if someone is 'try'ing even harder!

I sometimes think I must sound quite archaic at times, I said I was loath to do something to a crowd of friends and only one knew what it meant.

Alea Mon 21-Sept-15 12:11:36

"He strove to overcome his disability"
Sounds OK to me , but "I have striven" .
Why not use "try" grin

Ana Mon 21-Sept-15 12:09:41

I would never use 'strove', it doesn't sound right to me!

janerowena Mon 21-Sept-15 12:07:20

Maybe it's down to how clumsy it sounds to your ears. I use striven or strove, because they sound less hard.

absent Sun 20-Sept-15 23:24:58

Striven and strived may both be used as the past participle ?? he has strived/striven to achieve success. However, strived or strove are used for, e.g. she strived/strove against the odds to win the cup.

rosequartz Sun 20-Sept-15 23:23:56

Or strove?

www.verbix.com/webverbix/English/strive.html

eek, I'm off to bed
moon

Katek Sun 20-Sept-15 23:17:40

Simple question ....striven or strived?