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Grumpygran12 Wed 27-Apr-16 15:44:06

does anyone else hate the sound of phrases like 'Can't be arsed' or am I being fussy.It just sounds so ugly!

jeberdes83 Mon 16-May-16 16:18:14

This is something one hears constantly on TV. "Them things" "them people" etc, when it should be "those things, those people" etc! Really sloppy, ugly English!!!
As for pronunciation, it seems to be all American now, with emphasis on the first syllable, EG, REsearch instead of reSEARCH. CON tribute instead of conTRIBute. & so on.

FarNorth Sat 07-May-16 21:59:47

Swearing IS boring and doesn't deserve an alternative expression. Lazy language, in general, is tedious.

Grumpygran12 Sat 07-May-16 17:39:34

Oh dear - sorry far north. I don't like the word boring/bored either.
I should have said that I have heard the phrase so often I would prefer to hear an alternative expression

Skweek1 Wed 04-May-16 16:18:46

My dainty well-brought up DD1 aged about 7, was staying with MIL and soon-to-be new step-dad and wanted to help him with car servicing. MIL suggested that better not, as she may learn some new bad words, such as "Bother", "Dash it all", "Blow" to which she happily replied, "You mean 'Oh shit' "! To this day don't know where she heard that, as it wasn't one that anyone in the family had ever used, so must have come from school, but has gone into family lore!

SuzieB Tue 03-May-16 12:40:25

And, talking about the media, even announcers and commentators now say 'There's four reasons for...' NO - there ARE four reasons, not there is four reasons. Oh this thread has really got me going now! Think I'd better sign off.

pollyperkins Tue 03-May-16 12:31:05

I once Described someone as a twat to the family and they were also appalled. I thought it meant the same as twit.

pollyperkins Tue 03-May-16 12:29:17

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NanKate Tue 03-May-16 09:36:20

I say cba and it makes me laugh, however there are only about 3 people I would say this to.

I said to my son and daughter in law that I thought someone was a 'tosser' they were horrified ! I thought it meant a tramp but they explained that it was to do with masturbation blush. Never said it since.

Teetime Tue 03-May-16 09:25:58

I agree with the general theme I think of overworked and overused words or phrases. The one I dislike the most is 'to die for'. Really? You would die for a kitchen work top or a plate of dinner?

FarNorth Tue 03-May-16 09:20:53

I have always been bored with swearing as I find swearing boring. (I don't do it but have heard plenty.)

pollyperkins Tue 03-May-16 08:32:31

I think I'm old fogey! Dont like any of the expessions mentioned. Also hate hearing people say 'crap' or 'shit'- a graphic picture of these things comes into my head. I have a friend , female, 74, who regularly says she 'needs a pee' and I inwardly cringe. Why not 'need the loo'? Im not so old fashioned as another friend who talks about 'spending a penny' though! Sounds very twee. I actually hate any swearing too though my daughter tells me 'they are just words Mum!'

thatbags Mon 02-May-16 17:59:37

I disapprove of all phrases announcing people's boredom. Nothing is boring; people are bored.

And the rest of us don't want to know when someone is bored, thank you.

annehinckley Mon 02-May-16 17:54:44

I always make a decision, I don't take it.

2old4hotpants Mon 02-May-16 16:27:20

Suzie - I agree with you (and your father) about correct grammar. The one that always gets to me is 'different to' Very few these days seem to know that it should be 'different from'. It is now used widely in the media.

Elrel Mon 02-May-16 16:15:19

GG and Suzie - I was pleased to see 'bored WITH' for once too.
As for CBA, what's wrong with 'can't be bothered' anyway?

Elrel Mon 02-May-16 16:12:54

Hooty. I was so glad when oldest DGD got to 15, the house had echoed to 'Daaad, I AM for'een!' Every time he told her she shouldn't do something!

SuzieB Mon 02-May-16 15:12:48

GrumpyGran - you've just written something that I applaud! You put 'bored with'. I hate, hate, hate 'bored of' and 'fed up of'! I'm not too keen on 'Me and' either, instead of 'X and me'. My father was very hot on grammar and, 60 odd years later, I can still hear him correcting us. I find it ever so hard not to do it as a sort of Pavlov's dogs reaction when I hear perfect strangers using lazy grammar!

patriciageegee Mon 02-May-16 14:42:23

Can put up with CBA, LOL (just!) etc but i come over all jack nicholson in the shining when i hear "he borrowed me this.." or "can you borrow me that.." Aaaarrgghhh!!!! Anyone else?

thatbags Mon 02-May-16 12:38:22

Love the name, btw, hooty grin

thatbags Mon 02-May-16 12:37:43

Ah yes, hooty, I find dropped Ts annoying too. Interestingly, my mother used to object to the way I said the double t in words like little because I made the sound to far forward on my palette, or something. Maybe I'd have been better to glottal stop.

hulahoop Mon 02-May-16 12:11:58

Hubby always says what does poor Gordon Bennett say when I say it c b a r-- is not bad compared to some words some people seem to say every 2nd word ???

HootyMcOwlface Mon 02-May-16 12:02:28

What is really getting on my nerves is people not pronouncing words properly - just listen to the latest Lidl advert. For-ey (instead of forty), Br-ish (instead of British)! And then that Tattoo programme - fixing idiots' ta-oos! Grrrr Does my head in!!?

hicaz46 Mon 02-May-16 11:47:00

I love JFDI used to use it a lot (initials only) when trying to explain to staff the inevitability of decisions made higher up the chain. Always said with a smile never threateningly. I generally don't like acronyms however, fed up with LOL, OMG, PMSL and prefer to write whole words even on Gransnet.

Tricia89 Mon 02-May-16 10:12:23

At least it gives poor Gordon Bennet a rest. Grin

silverlining48 Mon 02-May-16 09:50:02

This made me smile and remember when my daughter first used .'cant to arsed,' i understood it to be 'cant to asked', so went into ' oh yes you can be asked because i am asking you'.

I suppose its a cruder form of 'cant be bothered to get up and move my backside/arse'??

I dont like it anyway, neither do i care for pissed off as an expression but have to admit on a couple of occasions to having used it, to emphasise just how strongly i feel about something. they know then not to mess with me ........