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It's and its

(132 Posts)
Ana Thu 26-Jan-17 17:55:18

It's is short for 'it is'.

Its means belonging to or associated with.

That's all I wanted to say...smile

Ana Thu 26-Jan-17 18:14:37

(I do realise that it's can also be an abbreviated version of 'it has', but the possessive 'its' seems to cause the most confusion)

Jalima Thu 26-Jan-17 18:14:39

whose coat is that jacket?
who's been eating my porridge?

I wanted to say that earlier today smile

thatbags Thu 26-Jan-17 18:23:30

A lot of people now use "it's" for for the possessive "its". I find this list of possessives useful:

his
hers
yours
theirs
its

Not an apostrophe in sight! wink

As opposed to:

he's
she's
it's
you're
they're

FarNorth Thu 26-Jan-17 18:40:00

My hudl always puts an apostrophe when I type its. It's easy not to notice it's done that, in its own sweet way.

A lot of people will just assume that spellcheck has got it right, if they notice at all.

Rinouchka Thu 26-Jan-17 18:44:08

It's grand that you have all shed light on it and its identity. smile Thank you for it and on behalf of it!

Christinefrance Thu 26-Jan-17 18:46:15

Wrongly placed apostrophes are really irritating especially on signs. 'English Breakfast's £4.99' for example.
I agree though predictive text is a problem, we don't always read through what we have written

mollie Thu 26-Jan-17 19:54:42

A timely reminder...I know the rules but in my everyday rush I throw apostrophes in at every opportunity. Of course I take care in official stuff (I hope!) but now I'll be more mindful ... thank you!

mcem Thu 26-Jan-17 20:48:56

I don't know how often I've argued with predictive text when it insists on inserting an unnecessary apostrophe. I think the programs should be re-written on the basis of 'if in doubt, leave it out'.
Better the occasional missed one than the dozens of superfluous ones!

Indinana Thu 26-Jan-17 22:25:31

There's a local FB page in my area called "Mummy's in Plymouth" I so want to say, "Oh is she?"

Indinana Thu 26-Jan-17 22:27:39

Ha, and I see I left out a full stop after "Mummy's in Plymouth". Not the best forum to make this sort of error grin.

Jalima Thu 26-Jan-17 23:15:28

Its my new keyboard wot does it
its a wireless one and has a mind of it's own

wink

JackyB Fri 27-Jan-17 08:54:22

I recently received an e-mail from one of our salesmen using its and it's correctly. I found that quite a turn on.

Sales reps are fun and can charm the hind legs off a donkey but they can't write correct English (or whatever their native language is) for toffee.

vampirequeen Fri 27-Jan-17 17:05:34

Strange things turn you on JackyB but each to her own grin.

I hate apostrophes especially as they turn me into a puppy murderer on a regular basis.

Ana Fri 27-Jan-17 17:07:15

How can that be? confused

Dogs can't write, let alone punctuate...(as far as I know)

rosesarered Fri 27-Jan-17 20:00:58

Mummies in Plymouth, surely?

rosesarered Fri 27-Jan-17 20:01:58

Ana...... you old pedant you.grin
Still, it was important and needed saying.

Jalima Fri 27-Jan-17 20:12:18

Oh dear, I am so ashamed of the Mummy's in Plymouth

'Twas never like it in my day.

Jalima Fri 27-Jan-17 20:13:07

Plymothian Mummies?

Indinana Fri 27-Jan-17 22:06:24

Mummies in Plymouth, surely?

Exactly so Jalima - though it does rather sound like Egyptian mummies grin. They should have just stuck with 'Mums in Plymouth' - much easier!

Jalima Fri 27-Jan-17 23:13:13

I did imagine them swathed in bandages!

Of course, they may not be Plymothian - even if they have lived there for years they may still be 'furriners' grin

So Mums in Plymouth or Plymouth Mums

Or Mum's

vampirequeen Sat 28-Jan-17 16:17:09

Ana, every time you misuse an apostrophe a puppy dies.

Ana Sat 28-Jan-17 16:23:16

Sorry Vampirequeen, I didn't know that...sad

FarNorth Sat 28-Jan-17 18:02:19

That's terrible, vq.
I'm glad to know, however, that you are not turned into an enraged puppy-murderer by seeing mis-used or missing apostrophes, as I had imagined.

Witzend Sun 29-Jan-17 13:02:52

It's is also short for 'it has'.
It's been raining, etc.

I used to teach its/it's to classes of Arabic speakers in (mostly) one two-hour session. They never seemed to have any trouble.

I just don't understand why so many native speakers can't get it.
It really isn't difficult.
Presumably nobody has ever explained it to them simply enough.