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It's and its

(133 Posts)
Ana Thu 26-Jan-17 17:55:18

It's is short for 'it is'.

Its means belonging to or associated with.

That's all I wanted to say...smile

FarNorth Fri 03-Feb-17 00:13:06

Effect and affect seem to throw some people into confusion.

norose4 Thu 02-Feb-17 21:48:30

I agree Ana, perhaps the thread could(or should it be can) develop it to more examples of word misuse or should that be misused?

Ana Thu 02-Feb-17 20:57:05

I did think about starting another thread about lose and loose, but I thought I'd better not push it! grin

norose4 Thu 02-Feb-17 20:52:47

Any one else out there who hates the missuse of the words brought & bought ? It really bothers me ,which then bothers me that I am bothered!!

Witzend Thu 02-Feb-17 17:33:53

To put it simply, 'it's' is ALWAYS short for 'it is' or 'it has'.

If it doesn't mean either of those, then it doesn't need an apostrophe.

MaizieD Mon 30-Jan-17 17:38:21

I really think that predictive text and auto text are deadly enemies of the Pedant.grin

It does make me smile (wryly),though, when I read a longish post in which someone had carefully put apostrophes in all the possessive 'its' and missed them out of all the abreviation 'its'...

NfkDumpling Sun 29-Jan-17 13:15:09

I thought I had the hang of it, but my phone puts apostrophes in every time and it's difficult to erase them, so I began to wonder if it should be used in the possessive. Thank you for clarifiying it.

Witzend Sun 29-Jan-17 13:02:52

It's is also short for 'it has'.
It's been raining, etc.

I used to teach its/it's to classes of Arabic speakers in (mostly) one two-hour session. They never seemed to have any trouble.

I just don't understand why so many native speakers can't get it.
It really isn't difficult.
Presumably nobody has ever explained it to them simply enough.

FarNorth Sat 28-Jan-17 18:02:19

That's terrible, vq.
I'm glad to know, however, that you are not turned into an enraged puppy-murderer by seeing mis-used or missing apostrophes, as I had imagined.

Ana Sat 28-Jan-17 16:23:16

Sorry Vampirequeen, I didn't know that...sad

vampirequeen Sat 28-Jan-17 16:17:09

Ana, every time you misuse an apostrophe a puppy dies.

Jalima Fri 27-Jan-17 23:13:13

I did imagine them swathed in bandages!

Of course, they may not be Plymothian - even if they have lived there for years they may still be 'furriners' grin

So Mums in Plymouth or Plymouth Mums

Or Mum's

Indinana Fri 27-Jan-17 22:06:24

Mummies in Plymouth, surely?

Exactly so Jalima - though it does rather sound like Egyptian mummies grin. They should have just stuck with 'Mums in Plymouth' - much easier!

Jalima Fri 27-Jan-17 20:13:07

Plymothian Mummies?

Jalima Fri 27-Jan-17 20:12:18

Oh dear, I am so ashamed of the Mummy's in Plymouth

'Twas never like it in my day.

rosesarered Fri 27-Jan-17 20:01:58

Ana...... you old pedant you.grin
Still, it was important and needed saying.

rosesarered Fri 27-Jan-17 20:00:58

Mummies in Plymouth, surely?

Ana Fri 27-Jan-17 17:07:15

How can that be? confused

Dogs can't write, let alone punctuate...(as far as I know)

vampirequeen Fri 27-Jan-17 17:05:34

Strange things turn you on JackyB but each to her own grin.

I hate apostrophes especially as they turn me into a puppy murderer on a regular basis.

JackyB Fri 27-Jan-17 08:54:22

I recently received an e-mail from one of our salesmen using its and it's correctly. I found that quite a turn on.

Sales reps are fun and can charm the hind legs off a donkey but they can't write correct English (or whatever their native language is) for toffee.

Jalima Thu 26-Jan-17 23:15:28

Its my new keyboard wot does it
its a wireless one and has a mind of it's own

wink

Indinana Thu 26-Jan-17 22:27:39

Ha, and I see I left out a full stop after "Mummy's in Plymouth". Not the best forum to make this sort of error grin.

Indinana Thu 26-Jan-17 22:25:31

There's a local FB page in my area called "Mummy's in Plymouth" I so want to say, "Oh is she?"

mcem Thu 26-Jan-17 20:48:56

I don't know how often I've argued with predictive text when it insists on inserting an unnecessary apostrophe. I think the programs should be re-written on the basis of 'if in doubt, leave it out'.
Better the occasional missed one than the dozens of superfluous ones!

mollie Thu 26-Jan-17 19:54:42

A timely reminder...I know the rules but in my everyday rush I throw apostrophes in at every opportunity. Of course I take care in official stuff (I hope!) but now I'll be more mindful ... thank you!