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Am I getting old and pedantic?

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BluebellGran Fri 31-Mar-17 18:40:06

I'm trying to resist commenting to anyone who's listening when I hear on the radio or television, 'ter' instead of 'to', or 'fer' instead of 'for' or 'try and' instead of 'try to.'

If I started this comment with 'so,' would I be more fashionable? Grrrrrr!

thatbags Sun 02-Apr-17 15:03:53

I like taking the piss on Gransnet too ?

aprilgrace Sun 02-Apr-17 15:06:04

Has anyone heard " The proof is in the pudding?" No it's not. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Must be one of the most misquoted phrases used these days.
And escalators have become esculators.
I'm getting pedantic too...grin

Ana Sun 02-Apr-17 15:06:49

I thought 'yous' was Scousse. Probably both...

Ana Sun 02-Apr-17 15:07:20

Scouse

thatbags Sun 02-Apr-17 15:18:39

Prolly both.

I like prolly too. It's kinda sweet.

sue1169 Sun 02-Apr-17 15:47:06

thatbags. ?....

mcem Sun 02-Apr-17 15:55:09

Yous - also from NI.
Had to object when a lovely NI student said to my class
'Are yous gonna bring us(singular) your books?'

mcem Sun 02-Apr-17 15:59:45

According to my 8yr-old DDGS it's proberly. Stood his ground and argued his point when I corrected him by saying that if we pronounce words correctly we've a better chance of spelling/writing them correctly.
He decided he'd just write 'proberly' anyway and if folk don't like it they don't have to read it!!

Ana Sun 02-Apr-17 16:04:50

I think most people usually just say probly when speaking conversationally. I do, anyway...

BonnieBlooming Sun 02-Apr-17 16:46:47

I hate the way a lot of English people say " I fell on the floor " when talking about falling outside. Sure
they fell on the ground? A floor is something you have inside. Drives me mad!

MawBroon Sun 02-Apr-17 16:50:31

There are certain questions to which there is only ONE answer.
This is one.
Another is "Does my bum look big in this?"
If you still don't know what that ONE answer is, on your own head be it. grin

Riverwalk Sun 02-Apr-17 16:51:59

Goodness Bonnie how many English people, or any other nationality, do you meet who've fallen and described the event, so much that it drives you mad? shock

Maybe you work in a fracture clinic.

Charleygirl Sun 02-Apr-17 16:56:00

I thought that "yous" was a southern Ireland expression.

thatbags Sun 02-Apr-17 17:20:30

Prolly is.

As well as all the other places it's used.

Castafiore Sun 02-Apr-17 18:06:58

In connected speech we use weak forms in non-stressed syllables. - not 'for' but 'fe', not 'of' but 'ev', not 'to' but 'te' (the sound of the vowel changes to the 'schwa'). If you don't use the weak form it sounds as if you are stressing the preposition (or article in the case of 'the and 'a' or 'an'). I want A cup OF tea. I'm going FOR A walk. If you teach English to foreign learners, you teach them to use these weak forms, as it sounds unnatural not to. I don't see a problem with 'try and', although its use does seem to be restricted to the present tense.

widgeon3 Sun 02-Apr-17 18:10:59

... and no one has said " He was sat in a chair" or " We were stood in a corner"
I think they are dreadful but then I come from West Lancashire if that is significant ( unless you prefer 'if that be significant'

Grandmama Sun 02-Apr-17 18:21:11

Yes, I'm a pedant (and proud of it!). I'm trying to think of an example of apostrophe + s which I've read in articles and I think it is incorrect:

"It belonged to the family of his mother's".

Not a good example but the best I can do. The apostrophe + s is not necessary.

cassandra264 Sun 02-Apr-17 18:49:04

I hate the Americanism 'you guys'. it can apply to both sexes, I know - but I still hate it.

I will make a cup of tea for someone - not a cuppa tea.

And I was taught in school to say' different from' not' different to' or 'different than'.I understand all are now acceptable.

I've always been old and pedantic. From the age of eight or thereabouts.....

Badenkate Sun 02-Apr-17 19:00:51

You're absolutely right Grandmama, because there is a double possessive in that sentence.

Linbrikat Sun 02-Apr-17 19:01:03

The Americanism that I find strangest is when they say 'I could care less' when in fact they mean (as we say) 'I couldn't care less'.

starlily106 Sun 02-Apr-17 19:06:51

I don't understand why people say something is 'for free'. Why not just 'free' ?

Chewing19Fescue Sun 02-Apr-17 19:19:05

Apart from the ubiquitous 'like' which has not gone away in our corner of Somerset. "I was like in the garden." I find 'th' pronounced as 'f' as in "I fink he's in the garden " is spreading. Often in deadly combination 'think' instead of "thing" as in "I heard somefink in the garden last night" I feel I am a bad person for noticing this.

valeriej43 Sun 02-Apr-17 19:27:01

I am very glad that i am not the only one like this, i have to really stop myself from correcting peoples grammar,
Yous is also a Geordie expression,
I also hate people saying "of" istead of have, and i cannot understand how anyone can mistake "defiantly" for "definitely"
Another thing people have started saying is "guy" instead of "man"another Americanism?

sarahellenwhitney Sun 02-Apr-17 19:44:08

How about I was 'like' going to go out or It was 'like' raining so I didn't go out .Why? the need for 'like'.confused

AlgeswifeVal Sun 02-Apr-17 20:23:41

The expression, 'any time soon'. I hear this frequently but I think it's weird. An example,' he won't be appearing any time soon' is this English or made up slang?