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Am I getting old and pedantic?

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BluebellGran Fri 31-Mar-17 18:40:06

I'm trying to resist commenting to anyone who's listening when I hear on the radio or television, 'ter' instead of 'to', or 'fer' instead of 'for' or 'try and' instead of 'try to.'

If I started this comment with 'so,' would I be more fashionable? Grrrrrr!

Esspee Mon 03-Apr-17 10:40:08

Elrel, tissue rhymes with issue. Can't say I have heard anyone make a mess of that.

railman Mon 03-Apr-17 12:23:56

OK, I know this post is from Friday, so sorry about a late post, but.....

One of my pet hates is the BBC and no doubt other broadcast news readers using the phrase:

"two-time", or "three-time"

And, without the slightest trace of irony, there was a piece on BBC Breakfast this morning discussing the use and misuse of an apostrophe!!!!!!!!!

Do these people know nothing of plural and singular, to say nothing of 'train station' instead of railway station!!

angry

railman Mon 03-Apr-17 12:27:10

Oh yes - just remembered another idiot word use:

Some media types have described the first showing of a film as being "premiered".

When did that become a verb!

Isabella1 Mon 03-Apr-17 12:46:57

I'm with you on 'try and' but I think we've lost that battle. It seems to appear as far back as the 16th C.

Esspee Mon 03-Apr-17 13:40:03

Does anyone else want to shout at the TV every time someone means drawing (as in drawing a picture) and it comes out as drawring?
Amusing the way autocorrect tries so hard to stop you writing such aberrations.

valeriej43 Mon 03-Apr-17 14:28:14

My daughter in law is from Middlesborough and her and family say like at the end of every sentence,

Ilovecheese Mon 03-Apr-17 14:51:02

Could anyone with a better knowledge of grammar tell me:
Is it correct to say "meet" or "meet with"?
Is it "talk to" or "talk with"?

grannylyn65 Mon 03-Apr-17 15:40:57

Innit !!

norose4 Mon 03-Apr-17 15:46:07

Not sure which is correct , generally speaking I would say can I 'talk to'you as in an immediate chat. I. And say 'talk with 'you when you are are indicating that its about a subject ..to be discussed later. I think meet you is generally used & only say , meet up with you ,' when you are going to say sometime in the future (as on Saturday for example . )but I guess anything goes these days , example: - 'sound' meaning yes ok or alright

Ana Mon 03-Apr-17 15:58:23

And I'm still not all right with 'alright' although I know it's deemed 'correct' these days.

Ilovecheese Mon 03-Apr-17 16:01:15

norose4 Thank you. So "talk with" would be another way of saying "discuss with"

norose4 Mon 03-Apr-17 17:41:15

Well probably , but not exclusively ?Give us some more clues & we may be able to work it out... ah there is another one .... can or may, can meaning am I able too, & may meaning am I allowed to , or is that too , two or to, lol ?

norose4 Mon 03-Apr-17 17:42:42

And I used the wrong too , first one should have been to oohps sorry

Grandmama Mon 03-Apr-17 19:00:58

"I got to go swimming" (or whatever the person did)

It's so ugly. 'got' and 'nice' were forbidden in written work at school. Why not say "I was able to go swimming".

"I love that I can go swimming" - ugly expression too.

retrolady2 Mon 03-Apr-17 19:19:16

'And' is a conjunction meaning also. The infinitive form of make i.e. 'to' make is correct, because the infinitive form is always used after a supplementary verb. No, I didn't try TO google it (but I was tempted!), which probably explains my garbled explanation.

retrolady2 Mon 03-Apr-17 19:19:58

PS Just googled it after I posted the above, and ... I'm no wiser. Don't understand the explanation at all.

norose4 Mon 03-Apr-17 19:30:21

Like your dedication Retrolady, but like you I'm none the wiser?

MaizieD Mon 03-Apr-17 22:11:05

Which post are you responding to, retrolady2? I don't understand what you are talking about.

A question.

Do those of you who object to 'alright' also object to 'almighty','always' and 'altogether'? Exactly the same process has happened to them; put the two words together and drop one of the 'l's.

norose4 Tue 04-Apr-17 09:24:04

Ahh Maize, I hadn't realised that at one time those words were separate ,so it's never too late to learn , perhaps I'm too young to remember ,well thats my excuse, Lol or should I make the effort to (and?)type laugh out loud , but then it could be Laugh out aloud!

TriciaF Tue 04-Apr-17 10:33:57

A question - if I write an appt. with eg the doctor on my calendar is it right to put "Doctors" or Doctor's", or just "Doctor"?

norose4 Tue 04-Apr-17 11:08:13

appointment with the Doctor should solve that one. None of the others is quite correct now you come to mention it, Doctors, would be several Doctor's would be belonging to the Doctor, & Doctor sounds like you are going to alter him/her in some way ?

dogsmother Tue 04-Apr-17 14:06:19

Please may I get this one off my chest?
When requesting something why oh why is it "Can I get?" Rather than please may I have. This really bothers me and so common nowadays.

annsixty Tue 04-Apr-17 14:45:05

A lovely item on our local news last night which would have delighted many of you.
A man has been going around at night, removing or inserting ,as appropriate, apostrophes on local business signs.
He has constucted long handled tools and covers the offending ones with tape or inserts coloured ones.
He remains anonymous but not for long now I suspect.

Esspee Tue 04-Apr-17 16:48:48

Loved that item last night Annsixty! Did you feel you wanted to join him? I did.
After numerous comments from me my local fruit and vegetable stand at the market gradually began replacing all the price labels with apostrophe free ones. Every week the owner asked my approval and the day he got rid of the last apostrophe I stuck a large gold star on his jacket. Sort of miss those apple's though!

retrolady2 Tue 04-Apr-17 18:41:41

MaizieD - sorry I was referring to the second post where the discussion was about 'try and' -v- 'try to'. I should've made that clear, but I got incensed and then scrolled through to the end to reply.

This whole thread, which I've now read properly, is very interesting though. I love these kinds of debates. Maybe we should start a supplementary one - "Does Grammar matter?"