Burqa or niqab- why can’t people get it right?

So people in hoodies are the victims of discrimination? That's a national disgrace.

I think I've had a bad hair decade!
Its on my 'to do' list.
A haircut, not a Burka, or however its spelt.

I've had a very 'bad hair day'
It started out just fine after a tussle, then it rained.

That's exactly how my Muslim online friend saw it.
She would often have her pyjamas on underneath if it was a school day.

ps she was 14 at the time.
I watched her programme.

Nadiya may wear the hijab now because it is part of her being a Muslim, but it did start with a 'bad hair day'.

In some ways this could be liberating from the tyranny of coiping with 'difficult hair' and making oneself look presentable before venturing out.

Motor cycle helmets, balaclavas (in cold weather) hoodies, even baseball caps with large brims. See Juggernauts post.

so which are these face coverings which are being discriminated against please?

I don’t know what to call what she is wearing now,but it can’t be a turban can it?

A turban is a symbol of the Sikh religion. It would be very disrespectful for her to wear one.

I agree with Juggernaut. Allowing the wearing of the burqa and niqab is discriminatory against all the other face coverings which are not allowed.

in other words, it was her choice. She wasnt instructed to do it by a man.

Of course she wasn't. Call me cynical if you like but everything Nadiya Hussein does is career motivated. Winners of Bake Off have one by one ticked all the diversity boxes - Gay, single mum, pensioner, ex military, flirty, hijab wearer etc. There was more fuss made about Nadiya's win than any other contestant. She was ratings dynamite.

A quick change of image, ditching the hijab for the far more flattering turban completed the 'journey'.

Sorry but I don't think religion or tradition has anything to do with it.

Bluebelle
Exactly what did I write that you consider to be 'not nice'?
Did I mention at all that all Muslims are terrorists?
Quite honestly I don't give a damn what anyone wears, and I'm hardly 'up in arms' over it!
However, three weeks ago, I walked into my usual branch of my bank, wearing a full face crash helmet. I wanted to check something before my weekend away with an old friend who travels everywhere by motorcycle. I was stopped before I'd even walked ten feet into the building and told, not asked, told, to lift the visor, remove the helmet, or leave immediately.
Would they have dared say that to a woman wearing a Burqa or Niqab?
I have never suggested that everyone who wears a face covering is a terrorist, but the fact remains that as a disguise, it's bloody effective!
And before anyone feels like mouthing off about my comments, maybe you should know that my closest male friend, he of the motorcycle, is a Sunni Muslim, a Paediatrician, and absolutely against women wearing Burqas or Niqabs, as he sees it as the continuing subjugation of women.
His DM didn't wear the veil, nor his sister, or his sister in law, or indeed, his wife.
To be brutally honest, the biggest problem I have with anything, is people such as yourself who deliberately misread comments!

though thinking anyone who does wear the full veil is a terrorist is an insult itself

Motorcyclists and hoodie wearers, being asked to remove their face covering in banks and shops, could say the same couldn't they? And this isn't just about terrorist fears is it? It's about social interaction being hindered.

So which was it? Bad hair or religious reasons?

“It was something that I found myself and the first part of me finding religion, that as the first act that I actually did, it was to cover my hair. And I realised the importance and significance.” writes Nadiya.

in other words, it was her choice. She wasnt instructed to do it by a man.

Nadiya has said she only started wearing the hijab at first to 'cover up her bad hair' and none of the rest of her family wear any covering as far as I know.

Nadiya looks very good in the new turban type headdress she now wears Quite obviously she was given a professional make over, she particularly suits the very vibrant colours we now see her in, they set off her colouring and eyes. The black hijab swamped her a bit.

How on earth would I know everything?

Of course I don't.

Maw has included a helpful guide which responds to the original question.

Since the post them veers off into such statements as Men want their women covered up and * They choose to live here, they should follow our rules* * the full monty* * in many cases is not the choice of the woman*

I am unable to respond to these statements with authority, since I am not Muslim, perhaps someone else can?

The ignorance is quite worrying.

That would mean you know everything about this, Oldbatty - so instead of telling us we are ignorant why not enlighten us as MawBroon has attempted to do?

The only Muslims I know wear Western dress.

Would anybody with a Muslim background care to comment please?

The ignorance is quite worrying.

It is possible to take the wearer aside it is done at some airports.

The human being has two eyes in the front of the head and uses them to make judgments about the outside world and the area he/she is in.
It is quite natural that when some one covers the face completely that it awakens mistrust in the people around her.

It is not religious it is done with men in mind. Men want their women covered up so only they can see them.
It should be banned,, especially for the under 12 yr olds.

I have no issues with either garment,security wise it should be possible to take the wearer aside to a private area where another women could check her identity ,though thinking anyone who does wear the full veil is a terrorist is an insult itself .

I still can't remember which is which without referring back to the picture.
They're words I'm unfamiliar with, describing items that I have never worn.

I don't know or care what they are, but the ones that cover the entire face shouldn't be allowed in this country. If people wearing hats/motorcycle helmets are required to take them off in pubs, banks, shops, etc., then so should the women who wear face-covering garments. They choose to live here, and they should follow our rules

It looks more than just a scarf to me. I don't actually care what she wears but my point is that it's easy for people to get confused with the names.