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How do YOU say it?

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MawBroon Thu 14-Feb-19 08:17:00

It doesn’t bother me when people say “chimbley” or “skellington” (it can sound sweet from a child) but when 4 year old DGD said “marshmellow” the other day, it really grated.
I have noticed it in England and cannot for the life of me understand why some people pronounce it this way.
We say “fallow, shallow, mallow” so why on Earth should the vowel change?
In DGD’s case I suspect this is down to the nanny as I did not teach our DDs to say that.
Ducks behind sofa

inishowen Fri 15-Feb-19 14:04:14

As a child I used to say "mash mallow".

Tillybelle Fri 15-Feb-19 14:10:33

MawBroon. I have not heard Marsh Mallow mispronounced but it might annoy me if I heard someone deliberately enunciating it wrongly. But said quickly, it is difficult to hear the vowel precisely. Also the sweet, surely, is named after the plant? The flowers of the plant are edible too.
I am terribly irritated by deliberate mispronunciations and wrongly used grammar. We've discussed it a lot here and that has given me some relief of my distress!
I certainly do not expect everyone to be correct all the time! Also regional variations are very interesting and full of character.
MissAdventure. I think both versions of migraine are acceptable. I was treated by Prof. Blau who authored the massive tome, "Migraine" and he pronounced it My-graine. It may, I think, have originated from the French which is pron. "Mee-gren" hence our use of the "me" rather than "my" at the beginning.
We had a great discussion about scones here not long ago, do you remember?
About "sounding posh". This has always puzzled me. I was born in a southern county in Britain. I studied in a northern university at 18. I was called a "snob" by so many people just because of the way I spoke! It was 1968. It upset me very much. I was by no means a snob and had no reason to be.

Tillybelle Fri 15-Feb-19 14:16:03

MawBroon
Ooops! I have only just caught on to:
Ducks behind sofa
I thought you had them on the wall. Ascending. Three. Smaller and smaller. Ceramic ones.
But it's you retreating into your safety zone. I realise now!

Tillybelle Fri 15-Feb-19 14:24:39

breeze. I love "let's call the whole thing orf"

Please forgive, probably someone has written this as I type, but the "Marsh" bit comes from its origins as a plant. A Marsh Mallow is a Mallow plant growing in marshy land. A marshmallow is a sweet, probably named after the plant. I only found out by going to a Nursery for some shrubs when I moved after my husband died. I was 41.

Jalima1108 Fri 15-Feb-19 14:37:26

phoenix grin

toscalily Fri 15-Feb-19 14:42:28

Phoenix Just showed to OH grin

Doodle Fri 15-Feb-19 14:49:47

I’m a mallow girl myself.
P.s. if anyone’s got some (especially the ones covered in dark chocolate, please send them my way ?)

Pat1949 Fri 15-Feb-19 14:52:10

MarshmEllow seems to be the American way of pronouncing i.

lizzypopbottle Fri 15-Feb-19 14:59:07

Mallow not mellow. But as a child, I lived in many different parts of the country and I recall that in at least one area they said mellow but I can't remember where. Maybe it's a regional thing, Maw.

Equally weird, here in the NE, people say faster, caster (e.g. caster sugar) and Craster (where the kippers come from) but marster (as in school) and plarster (as in sticking). Weird or what?

JackyB Fri 15-Feb-19 15:01:00

I'm sure we called them marshmellows but wrote it marshmallows. Nowadays I avoid them and the word.

grandtanteJE65 Fri 15-Feb-19 15:01:17

Maw Broon, I with you. In my family we say marshmallow, and we correct pronunciation as soon as children start speaking. The longer you leave it the harder it is for the child to learn the correct form.

lizzypopbottle Fri 15-Feb-19 15:01:26

Forgot that in the South they probably say farster and carster but at least that's consistent!

mrswoo Fri 15-Feb-19 15:29:33

Marshmallow for me.
What really makes me squirm is when I hear people refer to nougat as nugget. I once knew someone who said they had WeetabEx for breakfast.

grannybuy Fri 15-Feb-19 15:36:22

Never heard marshmallow for marshmallow here in NE Scotland. I can't understand why anyone would say that.

MissAdventure Fri 15-Feb-19 15:45:42

Nugget was always just that though.
When did it change to noogar, and what about chicken nuggets?

4lyndon6 Fri 15-Feb-19 16:25:14

Can I add my contribution? Medsin, as often announced by newscasters......it’s MED-I-CINE.

Alexa Fri 15-Feb-19 16:31:53

I try to be more mellow with advancing age but it is not happening. Marsh marigolds are pretty and marshmallows should be toasted over an open fire. Are mallow bushes fast growers?

Fennel Fri 15-Feb-19 16:35:54

To be even more awkward, why isn't it pronounced marshmall-OW? As in cow.
ie why is ow pronounced as 'O'?

phoenix Fri 15-Feb-19 16:47:02

Ah, the mysteries of pronunciation!

Look at this sentence "The farmer drive his plough through the trough"

Three words each ending in "ough", 3 different pronunciations!

phoenix Fri 15-Feb-19 16:52:33

I'm sure I typed "drove" blush

PECS Fri 15-Feb-19 17:06:35

The young queen might have said marshmellow!

1inamillion Fri 15-Feb-19 17:15:11

I've always said marshmallow.
May I add a contribution too - is it mischievous with the emphasis on the "chi" or
mischievous on "mis" ? ?

Carolpaint Fri 15-Feb-19 17:15:15

Would the poster old Goat explain, as have not a clue what point is being made. Please!

1inamillion Fri 15-Feb-19 17:16:58

I love that sentence Phoenix ???

Nanny27 Fri 15-Feb-19 17:31:28

The farmer drove his ploff throff the troff. Sounds good to me ?