What happened to 'th' ?

I wish I had your patience, Green Gran. I get in a tizz when I hear an HAITCH instead of an AITCH and it really shouldn't bother me. Why does it bother me? I have no idea. I need to learn to endure or ignore! Wise words.

Although I notice, most of the time, when people commit the 'sins' you have mentioned, it rarely bothers (or even bovvers) me.
How people speak is their own, or their parents, concern. As they say, "What can't be cured must be endured" - or just ignored!

I recall a girl on the radio talking about the group, Pri-ee Lierl Fings ... Pretty Little Things ... you could tell she was working so hard to mispronounce it. She was more than capable of saying 'pretty' and 'little' and 'things' in a different concept.

So, Vivian123, couldn't agree with you more. One of the interviewees on Woman's Hour today started every one of her answers with this word, and I wanted to scream. Can't remember what she was talking about now, either.....

Caro57
"There is so much mis-pronounciation now"

True - and misspelling too!

I cannot and never have been able to hear or say the difference between f and th, I had speech therapy, but for years and years I had people commenting on it making me feel bad, it has had a detrimental effect on my life, lost confidence, scared to speak in front of people I don't know, reserved about making friends. All this is not because I can't say the 'th' but because of people and their comments and prejudices.

LOL I am saying nothing ;)

I'm always very particular about 'F' and 'TH', but I have a very Essex accent, (maybe even an Essex voice, if there's such a thing?) which sounds common anyway.

My husband got away with saying f instead of th all his life....when I met him I tried to correct it but he was having none of it. It is bad parenting. I made doubly sure my my two kids pronounced their th, and they still do today. But my daughter doesn’t think it matters and allows my two grandchildren get away with it. Of course my husband is in agreement with her, but I still correct them. My daughter should know better as when her daughter was born she really wanted to call her ,Thea, until I pointed out that to her grandfather that would always come out as Fear. She realised then that pronunciation is important. She tried to get her dad to say Thea in a last ditch attempt... but he couldn’t , or knowing her dad, he wouldn’t. So the lovely name got ditched , in favour of the one she now has, which I dislike intensely...but of course would never say it or show it!

I teach year one children in Kent. They get very confused when spelling words beginning with both ‘th’ and ‘f’.

I may have the wrong person - but I'm fairly sure it is Angela Rayner, Shadow Education Secretary, who annoys me with her diction.

I think that's accent? That's how I have always said the word.

What is the correct pronunciation of joolry?

Unfortunate for any cockneys ayy!

Joolery is one that makes me wince.
Ditto sickth.

Did anyone else see the girl 'witness' in the Panorama prog. the other night (antisemitism in the Labour Party) repeatedly saying 'par'y' when she could evidently pronounce other Ts perfectly? Why??

I do partly blame Ed Miliband and others of his very well educated ilk, who started dropping Ts all over place, presumably to try to sound a bit 'cool', or 'edgy', or whatever else they like to name what my grandmother would have called 'common'!

But it seems almost de rigeur nowadays for so many TV and radio presenters. Heaven forbid that they should come across as remotely posh/elitist/privileged, or whatever they like to call it.

I have never been able to say my “R’s” but Woy Jenkins couldn’t say his either, and he was a prominent politician in his time. Cannot bring any other famous people to mind, but there are quite a few.

My grandchildren all talk about"me and somebody are going to do such and such" I have tried correcting them until I am blue in the face, but it makes no difference, partly because my daughter has been known to slip into similar!!!

Burglery instead of burglary always gets me shouting at the tv.

I hate that too gillyknits it really grates doesn't it.
If John Torode says ' tumeric' one more time I will send out a hit man. It's 'tuRmeric' and as a chef he should know that.

PS ...can't stand Hospical

I think some of these are dialect/accent , some are sloppy and some are the ever changing nature of language.

I have always said "amachur" . I think it might be accent?

"f" instead of "th" is a real bugbear, especially when you hear adult presenters / football pundits using it. It makes them sound like children. It's not an accent or dialect, it's just lazy speech which hasn't been picked up on. You would think that they could make the effort to correct themselves. And I won't get started on the absent "t". See ya la'er - as they say or
mis-say.

The ones that wind me up are using of instead of have.
Ceemmunity instead of community.
The one that really pees me off is when people say stastistics instead of statistics!
Growing up if we ever mispronounced a word such as Kekkle instead of kettle or miggle instead of middle we would be taken to task by my grandmother and now if I hear the same words being pronounced wrongly I’m correcting them in my mind.

It is Alexander Armstrong on Pointless who annoys me. Most of his speech is very clear, but he just cannot say 'Geography'.

I find that the younger generation don't use the 'wh' sound. They say were and wen for where and when etc. I spent a lot of time ensuring that my pupils got it right. My pet hate at the moment is people in the media saying Bregzit instead of Brexit. A lot of shouting at the TV!