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Graham Norton’s Holding - help please .

(22 Posts)
MissTree Wed 27-May-20 18:59:34

I tried a sample of Holding by Graham Norton but I couldn’t get my head round the very first sentence which is :

“ It was widely accepted by the residents of Duneen that , should a crime be committed and Sergeant Collins managed to apprehend the culprit , it would be very unlikely that the arrest had involved a pursuit on foot . “

“ managed “ doesn’t sound right to me. Is it right ? Is it a Kindle misprint ?
I’ve googled it but no one I can see is querying it . I wondered if anyone has the book or can shed any light on this for me.

SueDonim Wed 27-May-20 19:04:37

I’ve read the book and I’m not quite sure what you don’t understand. When you learn about the Sgt’s physical attributes, it all makes sense!

MissTree Wed 27-May-20 19:12:39

It’s the use of ‘ managed’. Should it be manage ? It doesn’t read smoothly to me. I’m being nit picky I suppose .
I thought there were several people on here who are very good at grammar and could tell me if it’s right or not?
It’s just a little thing but it’s driving me mad.

MissTree Wed 27-May-20 19:16:48

Now I’m re reading it , it seems correct. Now I’m certain I’m going mad. Sorry. It is a very long sentence though.
Do you think the book is worth a read It’s on special offer today .

geekesse Wed 27-May-20 19:17:42

Should be ‘manage’ - it’s a subjunctive. But most people have no idea how to use a subjunctive, and tend to use indicative mood past tense instead.

MissTree Wed 27-May-20 19:30:27

Thank you so much geekesse. I thought it should be ‘manage’ .

I used to be good at things like that but these days ...

SueDonim Wed 27-May-20 19:47:12

Oh I see! I thought you meant that another word should have been in its place.

It’s a very light read. I enjoyed it, think it was a 99p Kindle buy. I wouldn’t pay any more than that, though.

Gingster Wed 27-May-20 19:48:00

I enjoyed the book very much. Worth a read. Graham Norton is a talented man

Farmor15 Wed 27-May-20 19:50:35

Enjoyed it too. Somewhat in the style of Maeve Binchy, I thought.

V3ra Wed 27-May-20 19:54:35

Do you read it in Graham's accent in your head? I do! 😁

oldgimmer1 Wed 27-May-20 20:06:13

Hope not all the sentences are that longgrin.

Agree it should be 'manage".

Quite possibly a Kindle-ism.

Furret Wed 27-May-20 20:29:59

Stop being so picky and enjoy the read. If it’s all too much then close the book and choose another.

Furret Wed 27-May-20 20:31:20

Did he leave a gap before every comma? Now that would get on my nerves.

MissTree Wed 27-May-20 20:47:56

No, Furret, that was my mistake. 😉

Callistemon Wed 27-May-20 21:37:21

No, 'managed' is correct.

It just means that Sergeant Collins could not run very fast, for whatever reason.

Callistemon Wed 27-May-20 21:39:00

If youn think that manage is correct, then it should be 'should manage', not manage alone.

Kate54 Wed 27-May-20 21:41:18

I think it’s managed -matches ‘committed’.

grannylyn65 Wed 27-May-20 21:45:04

Oh for heavens sake!

geekesse Wed 27-May-20 21:52:22

Calistemon, incorrect. If it were expanded, the section in question might read “should a crime be committed, and should Sergeant Collins manage to apprehend the culprit, it would be very unlikely that the arrest had involved a pursuit on foot.”

The “should” is doing double duty here.

Callistemon Wed 27-May-20 22:03:09

Just enjoy it

Or not, OP!!

For 99p you could afford to delete it.

sodapop Wed 27-May-20 22:12:27

99 pence is probably a good price for this author. Think he should stick to what he is good at, hosting radio and TV shows

MissTree Wed 27-May-20 23:06:38

Thanks everyone.