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Kate1949

Oh yes the 'sh' thing. Carol Vorderman describes things as 'shooj' instead of huge.

A lot of presenters can’t pronounce huge. If it’s not shooge it’s phewje.

Drives me mad

The late, great Sean Connery famously spoke with the additional 'h' as in "shaken not shtirred' ! Bit of a trademark.

Speaking of 'T's, I remember a Tongue Twister from my youth :

Betty Botter bought some butter. But, she said, the butter's bitter! If I put it in my batter it will make my batter bitter. But, a bit of better butter will make my batter better. So, she bought a bit of butter better than her bitter butter, And she put it in her batter, so the batter was not bitter.

I was taught a shorter version but couldn't remember it all, and Googled the version above. It was apparently written in 1899, so even then it seems that people were having Trouble with their 'T's

(I used to say that my children saved them up as teenagers so they had a good supply of 'tuts')

i like that bit of butter etc.
but i hadn't realised it was to emphasise the Ts; rather the difficulty of distinguishing correctly butter/bitter/batter/bit of !

Sparklefizz

Alex Beresford may be from the Bristol area. When I moved here, I noticed everybody said Wells for Wales. Very confusing. They also add an "L" on words that don't have it, such as "Good IdeaL", "diarrhoeaL" etc.

Oh yes, he may be. DD and her friend met him years ago in Bristol.

I've noticed Bristolians say "I was led on the bed" too.

ie, too much lying around leads to heaviness.
maybe.

Thanks for the reminder about Betty Botter. We used to sing it, but those who omit the *ts^ would just say
Be’y Bo’er bought some bu’er😁

Somethink, anythink, haitch, dropping letters are all annoying to me.
I keep telling the children and grandchildren but I just get "Oh stop being such a grammar N@zi!"

Yes, where has this extra h come from? i.e. Shtrengh, shtrap,
shtride, etc. Most young people do it now. I absolutely hate it. It reminds me of drunken slurring. Are they being taught this at school?

My first boyfriend, from Bucks, regularly put pe_rol in his car

Silvergirl

Yes, where has this extra h come from? i.e. Shtrengh, shtrap,
shtride, etc. Most young people do it now. I absolutely hate it. It reminds me of drunken slurring. Are they being taught this at school?

Some answers to your query from my favourite website.

www.quora.com/Why-do-I-pronounce-my-S-sounds-like-SH-sounds-and-what-is-the-cause

Glottal stops don’t seem to be part of English Lessons today.

Argh! Amol Rajan just called H haitch.
I think I'll write to the BBC.

MiniMoon when you write to the BBC please could you ask for the weather person not to say ‘The remernants’ of a storm it is remnants! I shout at the tv when slovenly language is used.

So now I’m laid in bed making all these weird sh sounds and saying words out loud after reading your link Meryl!

MiniMoon

Argh! Amol Rajan just called H haitch.
I think I'll write to the BBC.

Yes.
I cringed.

It was like watching University Challenge speeded up - I was exhausted at the end of it!

welbeck

ie, too much lying around leads to heaviness.
maybe.

😀

German pronunciation has sh before t and p
Student, Spass, etc.
Maybe English is going that way.

What really annoys me is Alexander Armstrong talking of Joggraphy.

I went to elocution lessons when I was small which I found fun but I don't think many young people attend such groups these days - if they even exist at all. It's helped me a lot though throughout my various careers - including public speaking.

Who or what has 'laid ' you in bed Abitbarmy?

Sorry yes it should have read lying in bed ( I think!)

kircubbin2000

Who or what has 'laid ' you in bed Abitbarmy?

now this is beginning to sound like MN !
ahem, that's a very personal question.

I can put up with glo-all stops etc better than with sins of syntax.
One that gets to me, and it's so common, is "between you and I" or "he gave it to my husband and I". Prepositions are followed by accusative pronouns in English!

Blinko

Isn't it all about trying to sound 'down wiv da kids'? Street cred and all that nonsense.

Yes, as in your post and the O/P

It gets called "Mockney" as in mock cockney not just "down wid de yoof" but also "I'm not posh I talk like ordinary people".

That really annoys as its perfectly obvious what they're trying to do.