RIP prepositions?

I notice especially on Homes Under The Hammer that the Scots presenter says things like: 'needs decorated' where I would say 'needs to be decorated'.
But I heard it also on old episodes of Two Doors Down, so it might be dialect?
Language changes all the time of course, but changes that affect understanding or clarity are, imo, not good.

We were taught atuni.that the word Fraught was a post positive, however it seems to have been blown out of the window these days.

Cossy

Where I live (in Essex) so many people appear to have stopped using “the” and “to” so they “go shops” “go Spain” “go Doctors” I cannot bear it, it sounds like gibberish!

Or "go toilet". No, just no, though many children seem to use this phrase now.

Cabbie21

What about off of, as in get off of the bus.

And yet we are increasingly reading and hearing ‘out the window’. Where has ‘of’ gone?

Cabbie21

What about off of, as in get off of the bus.

Yes, "off of" is horrible.

Visgir1

Is it just the evolution of Language?
each generation changes it so it becomes normal.
I'm sure our Great grandparents would be horrified at so many things, from the written word to the spoken word.

I had this discussion with a young student who was working with us, as he insisted that using ‘like’ was what he called a ‘marker’, and that it was a perfectly acceptable evolution of language.
I always thought language evolved to include new words like ‘internet’ ( which was ‘surfed’), ‘googled’, and probably many other technological terms.

Witzend

The redundant ‘of’ does irritate me, as in e.g. ‘outside of the town centre.’

"outside of" is simply not necessary, I can't understand why it has evolved, but you even hear it from television presenters now.

When I worked as an examiner for the ESOL speaking test we would give credit for the use of “like” as a marker. It should not be over used, however.

Not sure if this is one, but ‘This needs ironed” instead of “This needs ‘to’ be ironed”.

Ooops, I put the full stop outside of the speech marks. 🙄

Baggs

Saying you are going to debate someone means you are going to debate a topic (or several) with them. Topis is understood and therefore superfluous.

No, to debate someone means you are going to discuss them with other people, probably in the absence of the person being talked about.

The expression is a new one, probably an Americanism, but it sounds both grammatically wrong to me and bad manners, as well!

Septimia

I see exactly what you mean and having been thinking much the same as you. I was reminded about the "debate" example only this morning while listening to the radio.

While I accept that language evolves (sometimes to its detriment), in my opinion when the prepositions are omitted the sentence doesn't make sense.

OK. So what else COULD 'debate Mrs. Harris' mean?

"Hence why" and "swap out" make me wince, as does "can I get..." in a restaurant setting when the diner really means "please may I have?"

Bored with as opposed to bored of?

Cossy

Where I live (in Essex) so many people appear to have stopped using “the” and “to” so they “go shops” “go Spain” “go Doctors” I cannot bear it, it sounds like gibberish!

Never heard this, sounds like something a toddler would say eg "go wee wee".

ExDanser - same in Yorkshire , we go t'shops too.

When my Sis-in-Law moved to Cheshire, she seemed to drop ‘to’. The boys go golf, her DH went football and she goes shops. It sounds really odd.

Could we please make sure that we use pronouns appropriately?
Chicken legs I'm looking at YOU
Would you say, this has occupied I?
Think about it.
"My husband and I" is NOT always correct. If you and he follow a preposition (they always take the accusation in English) or if you are the direct objects, use the correct pronoun - obviously me in this case

James and John I’m not sure you are taking this subject seriously enough for Gransnett

The English language is in a constant state of evolution. The way things are going we will soon be communication in emojis.

ExaltedWombat

Septimia

I see exactly what you mean and having been thinking much the same as you. I was reminded about the "debate" example only this morning while listening to the radio.

While I accept that language evolves (sometimes to its detriment), in my opinion when the prepositions are omitted the sentence doesn't make sense.

OK. So what else COULD 'debate Mrs. Harris' mean?

It could mean discuss her relative merits and demerits and whether or not she is a suitable candidate for eg a job/ a good neighbour/ honest or otherwise/ just have a general bitch about her.
Ie the object of the verb “to debate”

“Can I get something” drives me potty. I feel like saying”of course, help yourself; it’s in the kitchen/saucepan..” or whatever.
Less and fewer are frequently confused.
My father always used to correct me if I got the use of “surprise” and “astonish” with this story - a man came home after work and found his wife in bed with two men. They were surprised, he was astonished…

Bored of rather than bored with drives me up the wall

grandMattie

“Can I get something” drives me potty. I feel like saying”of course, help yourself; it’s in the kitchen/saucepan..” or whatever.
Less and fewer are frequently confused.
My father always used to correct me if I got the use of “surprise” and “astonish” with this story - a man came home after work and found his wife in bed with two men. They were surprised, he was astonished…

Incorrect use of "less" and "fewer" drives me mad. I find myself literally shouting at the t.v.set "less chances" "FEWER" chances.....It's singular v plural if I remember my grammar correctly.
Begging your presence Miss Keller , my EnglishLanguage teacher. We had a whole teacher for it in those days and it was a separate subject separately examined.

Another moan for 'speak with...' It makes me think of two speakers talking about different subjects. Why can't we just 'speak to.....'

You may be grieving. But you cannot 'grieve my friend' because it does not make sense; you are grieving For the loss of your frind, or for the misfortune that has befallen here.
If you say 'I am grieving' the logical response would be, 'I am sorry; who are you grieving for.'