Prince William’s speech

I is the nominitive, me is the accusative. He (nominative) gives it to me (accusative). I (nominative) accept it from him (accusative). I try to get it right but don't worry too much if I realise I got it wrong, just try to do better the next time. It was learning Latin at skool wot taught me to speak proper grammar.

The me/I rule has slipped lately. The trick is to leave the other person out of the equation. You would not say , “ Give it to I “ would you ?
However educated, modern speech has changed and Prince William’s speech is typical .

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25Avalon

Allira

25Avalon

Some people pronounce house as hice.

That's the plural.

Presumably as in mouse and louse😂

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Allira

25Avalon

Some people pronounce house as hice.

That's the plural.

Presumably as in mouse and louse😂

25Avalon

Some people pronounce house as hice.

That's the plural.

Why was an entire family criticised ?

I understand the purpose of Pedants’ Corner perfectly. In this instance, picking up a grammatical error was distasteful and unnecessary.

I find it hard to believe that this thread was started. Pure point scoring.

I don't think you've understood the purpose of the Pedants Corner forum.

It has nothing to do with point scoring or politics. It's for critques of the way the language is being used or misused.

I think it's quite innocuous in comparison with some threads on other forums.

But if it gives posters pleasure to pop in and berate us for not thinking about the right thing at a particular time or to completely misinterpret our motives or to tell us we're wasting our time then so be it. I doubt if it will change anyone's opinions.

Seems for some it is difficult to remain silent , not find fault even when the slaughter of millions is spoken of,

Some people pronounce house as hice.

Oh, I agree about the amount of people who don’t say “deteriorate” but instead say “deteriate”. Another annoying one is the number of gardening programmes where the presenter can’t say “foliage” but instead says “folage”. Monty Don is one of them.

It’s easy to work out whether it’s “I” or “me”. Just omit the other person- in this case Catherine. Nobody would say “Thank you from I”. So it’s “me”.

Really, even when speaking of the Holocaust and to survivors of the Holocaust. I very much doubt people experience this
often

However, I omitted to say, it really was irrelavant in William's speach.

I find it very irritating when people say, things like "Tom is coming with Molly and I." The easy way to work it out is miss out the other person in your head. You wouldn't say, " Tom is coming with I," therefore not with, "Molly and I" either. You can do the same with , "Tom and me are going to the pub." You wouldn't say, "Me is going to the pub."

Quote Barleyfields Thu 30-Jan-25 13:04:58
I doubt the Holocaust survivors listening to the speech considered whether the grammar was absolutely correct. I couldn’t care less if William makes an error. I listen to what he says and the sincerity with which it’s said. I find it hard to believe that this thread was started. Pure point scoring.

I so agree, he was speaking of the horrors of the Holocaust, meeting survivors and speaking of his g grandmother and her
work during WW2 when she saved lives of a Jewish Family

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And the op made that crystal clear.

Thank you. There are people who see what they want to see, which can lead to misinterpretation.

I doubt the Holocaust survivors listening to the speech considered whether the grammar was absolutely correct. I couldn’t care less if William makes an error. I listen to what he says and the sincerity with which it’s said. I find it hard to believe that this thread was started. Pure point scoring.

And the op made that crystal clear.

I disagree, surely most would be more interested in the content
of the speech, certainly the Holocaust

I mentioned that he is the heir to the throne because that puts him in a conspicuous position, where everything about him, including his speech, is significant. The same things in an ordinary individual would be more likely to pass unnoticed. A certain standard is expected from someone in his position.

Quote Grandma70s Thu 30-Jan-25 11:44:21
Anniebach
They nitpick because they are republicans, more interested in
that than grammar
What an odd thing to say. I am the OP, so presumably the nitpicker. I am not a republican.

Why speak of ‘heir to the throne’ ?

Anniebach

They nitpick because they are republicans, more interested in
that than grammar

What an odd thing to say. I am the OP, so presumably the nitpicker. I am not a republican.

Anniebach

They nitpick because they are republicans, more interested in
that than grammar

That is complete nonsense, Ab