Me and................

Chardy

'Me and Fred' doesn't annoy me nearly as much as 'Fred and myself went to...'

Or even ‘Myself and Fred…’. 🤯

I hate when people say " I was sat on the bus "

BrandyGran

When my friend’s daughter was about 2 1/2 yrs old her mum opened a bag of crisps. The little girl said “me want some crisps”. Her mum answered “Say I want some crisps”. The little one replied”I want some crisps and ME want some too”! It was priceless!

I always taught my son to say "Please may I have...?" rather than "I want" which sounds rude to me.
It came back to bite me though when he was around 6: standing behind some teenagers in a cafe queue he heard one say "I want a coffee and fries" or something similar and piped up "I want doesn't get" (which is what my mother always used to say to us) - "You should say "Please may I have...?" !

When my friend’s daughter was about 2 1/2 yrs old her mum opened a bag of crisps. The little girl said “me want some crisps”. Her mum answered “Say I want some crisps”. The little one replied”I want some crisps and ME want some too”! It was priceless!

You are missing nothing, RosiesMawagain. I was just interested that it came naturally to Shakespeare.

I suppose it is more a bee-bee-que(ue)
anyway point being I never use the word barbeque
I think I might have gone to a progressive school. The head master was openly a big wig with the local Labour party and was a proper leftie who drove a banged out volvo and knit his own socks

grumppa

.... Mind you, in As You Like It (IV, 3, line 136) Oliver says "'Twas I: but 'tis not I"....

It was I
It is not I
What am I missing?
Both of these are correct as the verb “to be” does not take an object , so we should not actually say “It’s only me!” as we arrive at a friends door, or “oops it was me” when admitting to that spilt drink on the carpet

I call a barbeque a bee-bee-cue

.... Mind you, in As You Like It (IV, 3, line 136) Oliver says "'Twas I: but 'tis not I"....

welbeck

This is so prevalent now that I think it has become an alternative form.

Thta is why you dont find me in this subject very often.

Language is not a static thing.

I occasionally read old maps.
Almost another language from today.

In French, "moi" is not the same as "me". They would never say "me et ma soeur" or "ma soeur et me". I have heard moi described as the demonstrative form, as in "Qui, moi?" We would usually say "Who, me?", not "Who, I?", using me demonstratively.

Cf French:
Moi et ma soeur, nous faisons une promenade.
It's correct in French and I find it entirely acceptable in speech to say:
Me and my sister, we went for a walk.

Oh yes, "myself"!
"Can you send it to myself..." etc Grrrr!

In a cafe I used to frequent with a group of friends , I was usually the last to be asked for my order and the waitress always said to me, notepad in hand”And for yourself”? For some reason I found this annoying.

Me can never be the subject of a sentence, It is always the direct or indirect object.

None of you would ever say, "me is going to go home now", would you? So why say "me and Jane are going shopping"?

Apart from the grammatical rule, I was taught as a child it was also a matter of politeness always to mention oneself LAST in a sentence, irrespective of whether the pronoun was the subject or the predicate.

In other words, "Our grandmother always gave my sister and me such lovely presents." not "me and my sister" which in this example is grammatically correct.

Just seen this thread.

Yep....I'm not the Queen - but it's "my husband and I", "my friend and I" etc in my book.

butterandjam

kircubbin2000

Or were and where.

Or bear and bare, cue and queue; all regulars on GN and MN.

In spelling: "barbeque" - that should be pronounced "barbek"!
Either "barbequeue" (the original meaning being from "barbe" (beard) and "queue" (tail) or barbecue, the Anglicised version.
(Ready as always, to be corrected!)

Regarding "Me and..." when I was a TA in Y4 the teacher actually wrote this on the whiteboard as a story starter: "Me and my friend was on the way home from school when..."

Chardy

'Me and Fred' doesn't annoy me nearly as much as 'Fred and myself went to...'

.... or even worse, "Myself and Fred ...."

kircubbin2000

Or were and where.

Or bear and bare, cue and queue; all regulars on GN and MN.

Jacky1947

Hubby and me, me and my friend/mum/sister....sound more normal imo

"Hubby" , OMG.

In speech, I find it entirely acceptable to use disjunctive pronouns, for emphasis or simply to introduce the subject(s) of a sentence.
When talking about my late DH, I might say, " Me and him, we had a ridiculous amount of fun." But I wouldn't write it.
It's analogous to the French usage, which would also be acceptable in writing.
As for different to and different from, both have been in use for centuries, as also has different than.
The prescriptive attitude to language of teachers in the 1950s seems now to be rather ridiculous.

BlueBelle

Everytime I read the title I start singing Me and my teddy bear

Me and my Teddy Bear had some lovely adventures when we was young.

Is that like jumping the shark?

BrandyGran

In N. Ireland people say “I was waiting on the bus” instead of “I was waiting FOR the bus”. Visions of people sitting on the roof of the bus!!

My mother used to “jump a bus”😳

Chardy

'Me and Fred' doesn't annoy me nearly as much as 'Fred and myself went to...'

I agree. All this using myself is wrong.