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SORES Sun 08-Feb-26 05:23:52

a pet hate perhaps or well remembered from Primary School to avoid the use of ‘got’ - this is a favoured word at the DM as in ‘got married’
but this morning I read the Sunday Times headlines - “Peter Mandelson got a five figure payoff “ and was more shocked at ‘got’ than the amount of money.

SORES Thu 12-Feb-26 15:28:30

Here is another one, from Nationwide -
“Your savings interest rate will be going down”

but to be fair, NW grammar spelling lexicon has always been limited - decreasing isn’t exactly a new word though…

Granmarderby10 Thu 12-Feb-26 15:11:28

CeliaVL absobloominlutely! As Eliza Doolittle sang in the musical My Fair Lady. 😃

Granmarderby10 Thu 12-Feb-26 15:03:58

An examples given above regarding alternatives to “got”:

Kate was married last week.
…...but not still married this week? 😉

I was told not to say pardon if I hadn’t heard what someone had said or to clarify, but instead, to say “sorry what was that? or “could you repeat that please?” -anything but pardon.

“Pardon me” or “I beg your pardon” was if you coughed/sneezed/yawned etc etc etc

DaisyAnneReturns Thu 12-Feb-26 11:50:18

CeliaVL

And it is the only language I have come across where you can insert an expletive in the middle of a word as in 'absobloodylutely'.

Is that true! We are a wonderful people!

CeliaVL Thu 12-Feb-26 11:32:13

And it is the only language I have come across where you can insert an expletive in the middle of a word as in 'absobloodylutely'.

CeliaVL Thu 12-Feb-26 11:27:29

As a teacher of English as a second language, I emphasised two points: that English is a very rich and flexible language; that languages in general change over time and that USAmerican English and UK English have diverged considerably since the seventeenth century.

DaisyAnneReturns Thu 12-Feb-26 09:30:39

Where will it end? (SORES)

Heraclitus famously said, "The only constant in life is change.”, but there us another one; fear of change is also a constant.

SORES Thu 12-Feb-26 08:48:49

Lucy Beaumont on The Traitors and Divorce - “I got no privacy”
quoted in The Times, yesterday.

Does anyone remember the Sunday Times era of Harold Evans, landing in the porch with a thud, the colour supplement with photographs by Bailey or Don McCullen,
the penetrating interviews, foreign affairs,
the Aral Sea, exposes and fashion, a veritable Cornucopia.
In my early twenties I was obliged to make sense of much of the main pages with the aid of a dictionary, some of the longer words ‘little used’ but applied efficiently, possibly with Roget’s Thesaurus to hand. Sunday was a day of information gathering and learning new words.
Now we have ‘got’ - ‘discrete’ used as an alternative form of discreet, spit infinitives abounding and scarcely intelligible tv presenters using glottal stops. Where will it end?
Our pedantic English teachers of the fifties and sixties taught us well, grammatical rules constantly drummed in to us, as times tables, instantly recountable, never forgotten

Mauriherb Thu 12-Feb-26 08:31:50

I prefer to use "start" or "beginning " rather than "get go" !!

TheSunRisesInTheEast Thu 12-Feb-26 00:05:34

Yes, going to the park, riding her bike, watching Peppa Pig, singing and dancing to Sing 2, but she's almost 5 years old, I'd love her to take an interest in reading and writing, but it isn't happening 🤷.

Mollygo Wed 11-Feb-26 15:53:52

There are lots of other things to hold her interest at 4. TheSunRisesInTheEast.

TheSunRisesInTheEast Wed 11-Feb-26 15:50:06

My four year old granddaughter is learning phonics, it's pretty simple for most three letter words, but then it's more challenging. She is constantly questioning why certain words are pronounced as they are, when they are spelt differently eg. walk/pork, play/grey, deep/leap, moan/tone. It is very difficult to hold her interest 🥱.

TheSunRisesInTheEast Wed 11-Feb-26 15:32:40

The English language is a minefield. It's a wonder it's so popular as a second language.

What's wrong with saying "have a nice day!" or "due to unforeseen circumstances ..."?

It's hardly surprising there is so much bad spelling and poor grammar, even when English is the first language, because there are so many inconsistencies 🫤.

Floradora9 Wed 11-Feb-26 15:05:45

I was told to use " nice " only in reference to food and " due to " only in reference to money.

TheSunRisesInTheEast Wed 11-Feb-26 14:20:33

Then why not "got lost" or "got stuffed"? 🤔

Oreo Wed 11-Feb-26 09:49:19

Witzend

‘Get’ can be useful though, as in ‘get stuffed’, ‘get lost’, etc.

😂

Sarnia Wed 11-Feb-26 07:46:09

My Primary School teachers hated the word got. We were told it was any ugly word and only fit for Germans to use. 5 years of Occupation may have had a bearing on their opinion.

Daddima Tue 10-Feb-26 14:12:49

grannybuy

I’m pretty sure that I was taught at primary school that ‘ had gotten’ was more grammatical than ‘ had got ‘.

In another thread, I’ve just typed ‘forgotten’, and feel that’s acceptable.
It did remind me of ‘from the get go’, which seems to have appeared relatively recently.

Oldnproud Tue 10-Feb-26 11:32:43

DaisyAnneReturns

Shelflife

I remember in primary school the teacher saying " we never use the word 'got' its an ugly word. We also learned that when writing to never begin a sentence with the word ' And' .

You are right that Primary School teachers did tell children not to start sentences with, as I remember it, "and, but or because" but this is not a rule if grammar but a rule if thumb, generally to stop overuse of these words. The "adult" rules are:

You may begin a sentence with and or but when it improves clarity or emphasis.

You may begin a sentence with because as long as the sentence includes an independent clause.

In formal writing, do all three deliberately and sparingly.

👏 👏👏

DaisyAnneReturns Tue 10-Feb-26 10:48:48

loopyloo

I bought some chocolate reindeers ( sic) from John Lewis. Wrote to the Cambridge Confectionary Company to point out the error and received some free choccies.

Perhaps they were intended for Valentines Day? smile

Witzend Mon 09-Feb-26 22:30:55

‘Get’ can be useful though, as in ‘get stuffed’, ‘get lost’, etc.

Fairlandia Mon 09-Feb-26 22:25:14

I love Pointless but Alexander Armstrong says ‘got’ all the time. “Let’s see what we have got on the board”. Arrgh!

Oldnproud Mon 09-Feb-26 17:51:01

JamesandJon33

My mother always said ‘I think not’, rather then ‘I don’t think so’.

Mine often said that too. When she said it, it was more emphatic than "I don't think so".

That said, the tone of voice was different, so maybe it was the delivery rather than the word order that made the difference.

pennyg Mon 09-Feb-26 17:42:12

Shelflife

I remember in primary school the teacher saying " we never use the word 'got' its an ugly word. We also learned that when writing to never begin a sentence with the word ' And' .

I've never forgotten when my primary school teacher was handing back our composition books, and when he got to my desk he threw the book at me, roaring: "We_never_start_a_sentence_with_'and' - EVER!"
And I never did again! (oops)

grannybuy Mon 09-Feb-26 16:39:23

Maybe it was a Scottish thing, or even more local.