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Prescribe or proscribe

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Mollygo Mon 08-Jun-26 16:30:11

I’ve just read about toeing the proscribed line.
It sounded wrong to me so I looked it up.

Prescribe means to recommend, authorize, or lay down a rule (e.g., a doctor's medicine), while proscribe means to forbid, ban, or make illegal (e.g., a banned organization

What do you think?

Doodledog Mon 08-Jun-26 16:32:59

I think those definitions are correct.

Am I missing something?

valdali Mon 08-Jun-26 16:35:57

Yeah, I think they meant toeing the prescribed line, Mollygo

Mollygo Mon 08-Jun-26 16:36:20

So we should toe the forbidden line i.e. do the things that are forbidden?

argymargy Mon 08-Jun-26 16:52:07

Just another example (far too many these days and I blame Americans, of course) of using too many words. Why not just say "toeing the line" - we all know what it means. It is both necessary and sufficient.

Doodledog Mon 08-Jun-26 16:56:21

Maybe if you cut and paste the phrase in context it would make more sense?

I suppose people can toe whichever lines they like - pre or proscribed, but one is likely to have better consequences than the other.

Mollygo Mon 08-Jun-26 17:09:26

valdali

Yeah, I think they meant toeing the prescribed line, Mollygo

Thanks Vivaldi

And yes argymargy just toeing the line would have been sufficient.

MawsRosie Mon 08-Jun-26 17:09:33

Different words, different meanings.
At least they got “toeing the line right”!

AuntieE Sun 28-Jun-26 14:30:36

Surely "to toe the line" means keeping on the right side of it?

Think back tto running races at school - if you put a toe over the starting line before "GO" was said you were disqualified.

It makes no sense to toe the forbidden line, which happens to be what "the procribed line" means.

Plevey08 Sun 28-Jun-26 15:46:38

Proscribe does mean to forbid or ban eg the ban on hosepipes in hot weather. Or mobile phones forbids the use of mobile phones in exams. So now we know the next time there's a hosepipe ban it's been proscribed 🤣

Tuliptree Sun 28-Jun-26 15:49:47

Plevey08

Proscribe does mean to forbid or ban eg the ban on hosepipes in hot weather. Or mobile phones forbids the use of mobile phones in exams. So now we know the next time there's a hosepipe ban it's been proscribed 🤣

But it’s not the hosepipe ban that’s been proscribed is it but the use of the hosepipe?

Plevey08 Sun 28-Jun-26 15:58:45

Well yes Tuliptree..you can't ban an inanimate object so yes the use of. Sort of thought that would be taken as read 🤣

Tuliptree Sun 28-Jun-26 16:02:22

Taken as read in Pedants’ Corner? I don’t think so 😂

NotSpaghetti Sun 28-Jun-26 16:08:21

"toeing the proscribed line" sounds like you are carefully conforming to the rules of an illegal terrorist group!

Lol!

NotSpaghetti Sun 28-Jun-26 16:09:17

Because "proscribed" is so legally heavy it implies something strictly outlawed by parliament.

NotSpaghetti Sun 28-Jun-26 16:10:05

Doodledog

Maybe if you cut and paste the phrase in context it would make more sense?

I suppose people can toe whichever lines they like - pre or proscribed, but one is likely to have better consequences than the other.

grin

Plevey08 Sun 28-Jun-26 16:12:28

That's funny Tuliptree. Ok I've got that👍

Tuliptree Sun 28-Jun-26 16:15:28

Plevey08

That's funny Tuliptree. Ok I've got that👍

Ooohhh thank you. This is the first time I’ve contributed to Pedants’ Corner but I love reading it.

Plevey08 Sun 28-Jun-26 16:38:53

First time I've read and contributed Tuliptree. I hope I'm not going to be proscribed! 🤣

Elegran Sun 28-Jun-26 17:36:31

I have seen "tow the line" used (on the net). Someone must have heard it, not seen it written down. i wonder what their mento image is of someone "towing the line", it is probably quite different from an athlete toeing the starting line, not crossing it until the whistle blows.

eazybee Sun 28-Jun-26 17:41:53

The confusion comes in part from so many people saying pr'us' cribed.
Poor pronunciation obscures the meaning.

NotSpaghetti Sun 28-Jun-26 17:42:48

I thought the origins were from the Navy where the sailors had to stand at attention with their toes touching a specific tar seam between the planks.

Falling "out of line" or failing to keep your toes on the mark meant disciplinary action.
My husband once said he thought it was also called "toeing the seam".

Grandmaofone Sun 28-Jun-26 18:36:24

Elegran

I have seen "tow the line" used (on the net). Someone must have heard it, not seen it written down. i wonder what their mento image is of someone "towing the line", it is probably quite different from an athlete toeing the starting line, not crossing it until the whistle blows.

Elegran - ‘towing the line’ is from the time when canal barges were towed by draught horses, also the origin of ‘tow path’ alongside canals or rivers

grumppa Sun 28-Jun-26 19:26:06

The hosepipe ban has been prescribed. Use of the hosepipe he's been proscribed. Simple